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does anyone have itching all over? legs, arms, back ,you name it. diving me crazy at night just started about 6 months ago I’m not taking treatment for my hep c and don’t take any meds I found out I had hepc thru work exam about 10 yrs ago probably got it yrs ago though don’t have any other symptoms other than tired allot any feed back would be nice thanks, mike
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What’s your bilirubin level? Try an antihistamine, quinine water, aloe vera juice, or Dead Sea Salts to take a bath in. I scratch like a dog with fleas most of the time. The above helps some, but doesn’t stop it. I don’t recommend all them at once, just try and see if any help. Good luck, David "Mike" <dishm…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6usF9.15346$0n4.2275293@newsfeed.slurp.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> does anyone have itching all over? > legs, arms, back ,you name it. > diving me crazy at night > just started about 6 months ago > I’m not taking treatment for my hep c > and don’t take any meds > I found out I had hepc thru work exam about 10 yrs ago > probably got it yrs ago though > don’t have any other symptoms other than tired allot > any feed back would be nice > thanks, > mike
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Subject: itching >From: "Mike" dishm…@yahoo.com >Date: 11/28/2002 10:35 AM Mountain Standard Time >Message-id: <6usF9.15346$0n4.2275…@newsfeed.slurp.net> >does anyone have itching all over? >legs, arms, back ,you name it. >diving me crazy at night >just started about 6 months ago >I’m not taking treatment for my hep c >and don’t take any meds >I found out I had hepc thru work exam about 10 yrs ago >probably got it yrs ago though >don’t have any other symptoms other than tired allot >any feed back would be nice >thanks, >mike
Below you will find an article which speaks to the cause or pruritis in hemodialysis patients .. You will notice .. ferritin levels .. higher .. This is the ’storage’ form of iron . Many studies show the outcome of too much iron in those with hepatitis. <<snip>> higher ferritin values are consistent with the possible role of inflammation in the development and severity of pruritus. <<snip>> Nephrol Dial Transplant 2002 Dec;17(12):2164-9 Inflammation and pruritus in haemodialysis patients. Virga G, Visentin I, La Milia V, Bonadonna A Nephrology and Dialysis Unit and. Laboratory, Provincial Hospital, Camposampiero, Padova and. Nephrology and Dialysis Unit, Provincial Hospital, Lecco, Italy. [Medline record in process] BACKGROUND:Pruritus is a common symptom among patients on haemodialysis (HD). We studied 68 HD patients to assess the role of iron deficiency, anaemia, inflammation and other common serum and dialysis parameters in pruritus. METHODS:The patients were questioned about the occurrence of pruritus at home, quantified according to frequency (‘never’, ‘occasionally’ and ‘every day’) and intensity (‘absent’, ‘moderate’ and ’severe’). The blood and serum variables considered were: haemoglobin, haematocrit, mean corpuscular volume, mean corpuscular haemoglobin, mean corpuscular haemoglobin concentration, hypochromic red blood cells (RBC), hyperchromic RBC, microcytic RBC, macrocytic RBC, reticulocytes, iron, ferritin, transferrin, transferrin saturation, C-reactive protein (CRP), urea, creatinine, calcium, phosphorus, albumin, total protein and glucose. We also analysed Kt/V, age and time on HD treatment. Patients were divided into 3 groups according to the frequency or intensity of their pruritus, and we analysed and compared the variables between the 3 groups. RESULTS:Half (50%) of the patients reported never having pruritus, 32.4% occasionally and 17.6% every day. Pruritus was moderate in 41.2% of them and severe in 8.8%. None of the parameters considered revealed any statistically relevant differences between the three pruritus frequency groups, except for mean serum transferrin level (mg/dl) (‘never’=268+/-64 vs ‘occasionally’=244+/-40 vs ‘every day’=217+/-56, P<0.05). As for the intensity of the symptom, mean serum transferrin (268+/-64 vs 247+/-39 vs 174+/-31, P<0.001) and median ferritin levels (mg/dl) (83 (11-420) vs 98 (11-1121) vs 293 (111-471), P<0.05) showed statistically significant differences between the 3 groups, as did albumin levels (g/dl) (4.3+/-0.4 vs 4.2+/-0.4 vs 3.7+/-0.4, P<0.05). Median CRP values (mg/dl) tended to be higher in patients with more frequent (0.4 (0.3-5.5) vs 0.7 (0.3-11.4) vs 0.9 (0.3-13.5)) and more severe pruritus (0.4 (0.3-5.5) vs 0.7 (0.3-4.0) vs 2.1 (0.3-13.5)), but those differences were not statistically significant. CONCLUSIONS:Iron deficiency and anaemia seem to play no part in HD-related pruritus, whereas lower serum transferrin and albumin levels and higher ferritin values are consistent with the possible role of inflammation in the development and severity of pruritus. PMID: 12454228, UI: 22342447 This is the url which speaks to use of phytic acid / IP6 a natural iron chelator.. found in any health food store. http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com/phytate.html Who loves ya. Tom Jesus was a vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Jesus was a vegetarian! http://www.nucleus.com/watchman Moses was a mystic! http://www.nucleus.com/watchman/light.html
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I’ve been on treatment for a little over three months and sometimes I itch badly; mostly the sides of my head and back. I’ve used cortisone cream on my back and alavero one my head. It helps. "Doug Hyslop" <d…@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:qEZK9.5949$cN6.232204@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi mike….just found out how to respond to a message in the group….sorry > about previous e-mail…..anyway in1987(was diagnosed in 1986) i was itching > so bad used to draw blood from scratching in places…..started using > "Questran" and it has done the trick…no problems since,unless i get slack > and miss four or five days dossage…is a prescription so ask your doc > ……..godspeed….Doug. > "Mike" <dishm…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:uAUF9.26545$0n4.2703813@newsfeed.slurp.net… > > thanks for all the feed back > > nice group > > mike > > "Mike" <dishm…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:6usF9.15346$0n4.2275293@newsfeed.slurp.net… > > > does anyone have itching all over? > > > legs, arms, back ,you name it. > > > diving me crazy at night > > > just started about 6 months ago > > > I’m not taking treatment for my hep c > > > and don’t take any meds > > > I found out I had hepc thru work exam about 10 yrs ago > > > probably got it yrs ago though > > > don’t have any other symptoms other than tired allot > > > any feed back would be nice > > > thanks, > > > mike
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I’ve had a bad rash from the tx. Started using Aveeno bath – old fashioned oatmeal bath. Works. Helps a lot. Aloe vera is also helpful for skin problems, but I prefer fresh to any of the bottled commercial products, and I’d prefer a health-food store variety to the sunburn variety. The sunburn stuff helps on something a simple as sunburn, but doesn’t seem effective on more ’serious’ rashes likte poison ivy or the tx rash. RJK posted… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve been on treatment for a little over three months and sometimes I itch > badly; mostly the sides of my head and back. I’ve used cortisone cream on my > back and alavero one my head. It helps. > > so bad used to draw blood from scratching in places…..started using > > "Questran" and it has done the trick…no problems since,unless i get > slack > > > "Mike" <dishm…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > news:6usF9.15346$0n4.2275293@newsfeed.slurp.net… > > > > does anyone have itching all over? > > > > legs, arms, back ,you name it. > > > > diving me crazy at night > > > > just started about 6 months ago > > > > I’m not taking treatment for my hep c > > > > and don’t take any meds > > > > I found out I had hepc thru work exam about 10 yrs ago > > > > probably got it yrs ago though > > > > don’t have any other symptoms other than tired allot > > > > any feed back would be nice > > > > thanks, > > > > mike
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i hamve the itching pretty mucn all over wtih scabs and bumps and lots of edness. My dr prescribe me Nixoral shampll and nixoral cream for my face and it works pretty. It’s seems if i make an efforcted ot wash my face and shapamppo everyday that the itching riash is minimixed.
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>what is pruritus? >ty >mike
Itching! Itching (pruritis) from increased bile salts in blood (secreted in sweat) eileen
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Hi mike….just found out how to respond to a message in the group….sorry about previous e-mail…..anyway in1987(was diagnosed in 1986) i was itching so bad used to draw blood from scratching in places…..started using "Questran" and it has done the trick…no problems since,unless i get slack and miss four or five days dossage…is a prescription so ask your doc ……..godspeed….Doug. "Mike" <dishm…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uAUF9.26545$0n4.2703813@newsfeed.slurp.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> thanks for all the feed back > nice group > mike > "Mike" <dishm…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:6usF9.15346$0n4.2275293@newsfeed.slurp.net… > > does anyone have itching all over? > > legs, arms, back ,you name it. > > diving me crazy at night > > just started about 6 months ago > > I’m not taking treatment for my hep c > > and don’t take any meds > > I found out I had hepc thru work exam about 10 yrs ago > > probably got it yrs ago though > > don’t have any other symptoms other than tired allot > > any feed back would be nice > > thanks, > > mike
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what is pruritus? ty mike "doe" <ironjust…@aol.comdoe> wrote in message
news:20021128161220.20065.00000241@mb-dh.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Subject: itching > >From: "Mike" dishm…@yahoo.com > >Date: 11/28/2002 10:35 AM Mountain Standard Time > >Message-id: <6usF9.15346$0n4.2275…@newsfeed.slurp.net> > >does anyone have itching all over? > >legs, arms, back ,you name it. > >diving me crazy at night > >just started about 6 months ago > >I’m not taking treatment for my hep c > >and don’t take any meds > >I found out I had hepc thru work exam about 10 yrs ago > >probably got it yrs ago though > >don’t have any other symptoms other than tired allot > >any feed back would be nice > >thanks, > >mike > Below you will find an article which speaks to the cause or pruritis in > hemodialysis patients .. > You will notice .. ferritin levels .. higher .. > This is the ’storage’ form of iron . > Many studies show the outcome of too much iron in those with hepatitis. > <<snip>> > higher ferritin values are consistent with the possible role of inflammation in > the development and severity of pruritus. > <<snip>> > Nephrol Dial Transplant 2002 Dec;17(12):2164-9 > Inflammation and pruritus in haemodialysis patients. > Virga G, Visentin I, La Milia V, Bonadonna A > Nephrology and Dialysis Unit and. Laboratory, Provincial Hospital, > Camposampiero, Padova and. Nephrology and Dialysis Unit, Provincial Hospital, > Lecco, Italy. > [Medline record in process] > BACKGROUND:Pruritus is a common symptom among patients on haemodialysis (HD). > We studied 68 HD patients to assess the role of iron deficiency, anaemia, > inflammation and other common serum and dialysis parameters in pruritus. > METHODS:The patients were questioned about the occurrence of pruritus at home, > quantified according to frequency (‘never’, ‘occasionally’ and ‘every day’) and > intensity (‘absent’, ‘moderate’ and ’severe’). The blood and serum variables > considered were: haemoglobin, haematocrit, mean corpuscular volume, mean > corpuscular haemoglobin, mean corpuscular haemoglobin concentration, > hypochromic red blood cells (RBC), hyperchromic RBC, microcytic RBC, macrocytic > RBC, reticulocytes, iron, ferritin, transferrin, transferrin saturation, > C-reactive protein (CRP), urea, creatinine, calcium, phosphorus, albumin, total > protein and glucose. We also analysed Kt/V, age and time on HD treatment. > Patients were divided into 3 groups according to the frequency or intensity of > their pruritus, and we analysed and compared the variables between the 3 > groups. RESULTS:Half (50%) of the patients reported never having pruritus, > 32.4% occasionally and 17.6% every day. Pruritus was moderate in 41.2% of them > and severe in 8.8%. None of the parameters considered revealed any > statistically relevant differences between the three pruritus frequency groups, > except for mean serum transferrin level (mg/dl) (‘never’=268+/-64 vs > ‘occasionally’=244+/-40 vs ‘every day’=217+/-56, P<0.05). As for the intensity > of the symptom, mean serum transferrin (268+/-64 vs 247+/-39 vs 174+/-31, > P<0.001) and median ferritin levels (mg/dl) (83 (11-420) vs 98 (11-1121) vs 293 > (111-471), P<0.05) showed statistically significant differences between the 3 > groups, as did albumin levels (g/dl) (4.3+/-0.4 vs 4.2+/-0.4 vs 3.7+/-0.4, > P<0.05). Median CRP values (mg/dl) tended to be higher in patients with more > frequent (0.4 (0.3-5.5) vs 0.7 (0.3-11.4) vs 0.9 (0.3-13.5)) and more severe > pruritus (0.4 (0.3-5.5) vs 0.7 (0.3-4.0) vs 2.1 (0.3-13.5)), but those > differences were not statistically significant. CONCLUSIONS:Iron deficiency and > anaemia seem to play no part in HD-related pruritus, whereas lower serum > transferrin and albumin levels and higher ferritin values are consistent with > the possible role of inflammation in the development and severity of pruritus. > PMID: 12454228, UI: 22342447 > This is the url which speaks to use of phytic acid / IP6 a natural iron > chelator.. found in any health food store. > http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com/phytate.html > Who loves ya. > Tom > Jesus was a vegetarian! > http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com > Jesus was a vegetarian! http://www.nucleus.com/watchman > Moses was a mystic! http://www.nucleus.com/watchman/light.html
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Boy, I know what you mean–I called it "The Torture of the Damned"!!! I clawed myself til I bled. Mine went totally away through dietary changes. I severely limited my fat intake, gave up sugar, and started drinking lots of Gatorade and fruit juices (clear)–mostly, I just eat healthy. I think most of it was caused by overconsumption of fat though, because I can go off the diet for a day or two as long as I keep the fat at 25 g or less. I haven’t itched for months. Mike <dishm…@yahoo.com> did say: || does anyone have itching all over? || legs, arms, back ,you name it. || diving me crazy at night || just started about 6 months ago || I’m not taking treatment for my hep c || and don’t take any meds || I found out I had hepc thru work exam about 10 yrs ago || probably got it yrs ago though || don’t have any other symptoms other than tired allot || any feed back would be nice || thanks, || mike
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thanks for all the feed back nice group mike "Mike" <dishm…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6usF9.15346$0n4.2275293@newsfeed.slurp.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> does anyone have itching all over? > legs, arms, back ,you name it. > diving me crazy at night > just started about 6 months ago > I’m not taking treatment for my hep c > and don’t take any meds > I found out I had hepc thru work exam about 10 yrs ago > probably got it yrs ago though > don’t have any other symptoms other than tired allot > any feed back would be nice > thanks, > mike
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I used to scratch alot! :-) http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/AubreysGraduation http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/ABandisBorn http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile
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I know I should no this but I talked to my daughter today and she said she was itchy. Is that a symptom of hep c or of the treatment? Hopefully it’s just dry skin. An article I read said the build up of bilirubin in the skin causes it. What is bilirubin and should she be experiencing this symptom so soon? WM
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I’ve been on treatment for four months and the itching sometimes drives me crazy! "worried mom" <t…@bedford.net> wrote in message
news:Xa-dnRkBcpevI4GjXTWc3A@bedford.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know I should no this but I talked to my daughter today and she said she > was itchy. Is that a symptom of hep c or of the treatment? Hopefully it’s > just dry skin. An article I read said the build up of bilirubin in the skin > causes it. What is bilirubin and should she be experiencing this symptom so > soon? > WM
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Gee, I’ve had itching for about 30 years now. Son of the gun, I think that’s about the same amount of time I’ve had the hep. Coincidence? Naw! Maybe your daughter just has dry skin though, it IS that time of year, you know. Elmo
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Interferon will for sure dry the skin out and Ribavirin will cause itching. It is important to drink lots of water and lube up after showers, and never take hot showers. Other then that, one just has to bare with it and realize nothing is perfect when treating a disease with Chem Therapy, which is just what Interferon is, CHEMO. It was invented to treat cancer, not HCV. "worried mom" <t…@bedford.net> wrote in message
news:Xa-dnRkBcpevI4GjXTWc3A@bedford.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know I should no this but I talked to my daughter today and she said she > was itchy. Is that a symptom of hep c or of the treatment? Hopefully it’s > just dry skin. An article I read said the build up of bilirubin in the skin > causes it. What is bilirubin and should she be experiencing this symptom so > soon? > WM
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I usually take baths rather than showers and drop 2-3 vitamin E in the water and let them dissolve. seems to help. "charles" <nos…@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:rqyT9.79270$%3.21913698@twister.neo.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Interferon will for sure dry the skin out and Ribavirin will cause itching. > It is important to drink lots of water and lube up after showers, and never > take hot showers. Other then that, one just has to bare with it and realize > nothing is perfect when treating a disease with Chem Therapy, which is just > what Interferon is, CHEMO. It was invented to treat cancer, not HCV. > "worried mom" <t…@bedford.net> wrote in message > news:Xa-dnRkBcpevI4GjXTWc3A@bedford.net… > > I know I should no this but I talked to my daughter today and she said she > > was itchy. Is that a symptom of hep c or of the treatment? Hopefully it’s > > just dry skin. An article I read said the build up of bilirubin in the > skin > > causes it. What is bilirubin and should she be experiencing this symptom > so > > soon? > > WM
