Lost & alone

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David: I’m feel tremendously for your current state. I’ve been there, it’s not pretty. First and foremost Dave, don’t be hard on yourself. "feeling like you want to die" doesn’t make you a low life..It makes you somebody who’s at the end of their rope, at the moment. Take all the advice given here, make sure to keep eating and drinking right..Get lots of sleep and rest. Watch movies that make you feel good. Above all trust God to see you through. It ain’t over till it’s over David. And it aint over. Paul G.

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David- Well from someone who has done the 48 weeks of the peg/riba chemo, I would say your right about in the groove for the side affects. What you are saying is about how I felt, like pure shit. I lasted 12 weeks before I quit working. Get on some anti-depressants if your not already, or have the dose adjusted. Other side affects like nausea, headaches, can’t sleep, there are meds to take care of that. I really leaned on the Hydrocodone, my headaches were blinding at times, but never had any problem when I stopped using those. By the end of treatment I was real tired of swallowing any kind of pills. I smoked some of that good stinky skunk weed, that helped too. And of course your doing the right thing posting how you feel. Good to get things off of your chest. Take it easy, the day will come when it will be over and you can do it. Just try to get through today and worry about tomorrow, er, well tomorrow. Hang in there, been there and know how your feeling. Russ "David" <davew…@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

news:3oftf.4583$nA2.2966@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I have been reading posts for over a year now and have posted a couple of > times. I’m sorry to post this this way but I feel like there is no one to > talk to and the way I am feeling right now is scary.  Today will be shot > 39 > and for the most part I have been very lucky as far as side effects go.  I > think the depression is really getting me now.  I can’t function at all. I > can’t do anything but stay in bed.  I have missed more work in the last > two > weeks than over the rest of the rx Today is the worst I am so alone and > scared.  Suicide has even crossed my mind which scared the hell out of me > that won’t happen but the fact that I thought about it scares the shit out > me why would that even be a thought?  This has got me so freaked out and > confused I can’t see straight.  So if this is hard to read I apologize > now. > Of course none of my Dr. are available today so there is no one to talk to > so I thought maybe writing this could help me clear my head some.  It is > taking everything in my power to do this simple task.I’ve done the praying > and the meditating and they don’t seem to help much.  So if anyone has any > suggestions feel free to give me any suggestions > thanks David

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Right on, man!!!  Thanks for posting words of encouragement…..good to ’see’ you! elmo //////////// VAUGHNK…@hawaii.rr.com (da

question on 6 month post TX

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In article <14406-43B40443…@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net>, elmoemer…@webtv.net says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Re: question on 6 month post TX   >Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 9:22am From: >HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) >In article <1135863974.603396.264…@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, >Chill…@rogers.com says… >Hi Everyone. I was at my appt. yesterday and I had a question for the >hep nurse. I am not sure I got a straight answer. I know I will get one >here. How many people tested negative for the virus from week 12, 24, 48 >to have the virus come back to life 6 months past the treatment. >According to my BCLD, about 25% show no response after 12 weeks and are >temporarily taken off medication. >I asked her this question because as you know I am in a study and the >nurse told me that everyone is responding to treatment but none have >completed the program. If everyone is responding to treatment then who >are the 40 percent who don’t? >Mags >thanks for the spellchecker link! >You can show SVR after 48 weeks but 6 months thereafter, test positive >again for HCV. That is the 40% they’re speaking of, mags. >//////////// >Sorry, Frank, but you’re incorrect.  The 40% I believe Mags is referring >to are the 40% that don’t achieve SVR with the current tx with Peg and >riba.  If you’re undetectable by 12 weeks, I think the SVR rate becomes >near 90%. >elmo  

I stand corrected. Thanks elmo.

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In article <14406-43B40443…@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net>, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text - elmoemer…@webtv.net wrote: > Re: question on 6 month post TX   > Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 9:22am From: > HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) > In article <1135863974.603396.264…@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, > Chill…@rogers.com says… > Hi Everyone. I was at my appt. yesterday and I had a question for the > hep nurse. I am not sure I got a straight answer. I know I will get one > here. How many people tested negative for the virus from week 12, 24, 48 > to have the virus come back to life 6 months past the treatment. > According to my BCLD, about 25% show no response after 12 weeks and are > temporarily taken off medication. > I asked her this question because as you know I am in a study and the > nurse told me that everyone is responding to treatment but none have > completed the program. If everyone is responding to treatment then who > are the 40 percent who don’t? > Mags > thanks for the spellchecker link! > You can show SVR after 48 weeks but 6 months thereafter, test positive > again for HCV. That is the 40% they’re speaking of, mags. > //////////// > Sorry, Frank, but you’re incorrect.  The 40% I believe Mags is referring > to are the 40% that don’t achieve SVR with the current tx with Peg and > riba.  If you’re undetectable by 12 weeks, I think the SVR rate becomes > near 90%. > elmo  

Here: http://www.hivandhepatitis.com/2005icr/easl/docs/041805_b.html Using Peg-IFN and Riba, in a study of non-responders and relapsers, 61% of that group who had a viral load of 0 at week 12 achieved SVR.  That number is higher for people who were on their first round of treatment. Elmo – the 90% figure maybe comes from the number for people who don’t respond at 12 weeks, it’s 98% chance of the the treatment _not_ working. G

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> In article <1135863974.603396.264…@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, > Chill…@rogers.com says…

[..] > >I asked her this question because as you know I am in a study and the > >nurse told me that everyone is responding to treatment but none have > >completed the program.  If everyone is responding to treatment then who > >are the 40 percent who don’t?

You’re on a new drug, no?   If everyone is responding to treatment early on then that – with the old drugs – is associated with a higher rate of SVR. What they hope is that the SVR rate with the new drug will be at least as good if not better based on the same early response. It’s as good as the news you could have at this point could be, I think. G

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Re: question on 6 month post TX   Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 10:02am From: HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) In article <14406-43B40443…@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net>, elmoemer…@webtv.net says… Re: question on 6 month post TX Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 9:22am From: HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) In article <1135863974.603396.264…@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Chill…@rogers.com says… Hi Everyone. I was at my appt. yesterday and I had a question for the hep nurse. I am not sure I got a straight answer. I know I will get one here. How many people tested negative for the virus from week 12, 24, 48 to have the virus come back to life 6 months past the treatment. According to my BCLD, about 25% show no response after 12 weeks and are temporarily taken off medication. I asked her this question because as you know I am in a study and the nurse told me that everyone is responding to treatment but none have completed the program. If everyone is responding to treatment then who are the 40 percent who don’t? Mags thanks for the spellchecker link! You can show SVR after 48 weeks but 6 months thereafter, test positive again for HCV. That is the 40% they’re speaking of, mags. //////////// Sorry, Frank, but you’re incorrect. The 40% I believe Mags is referring to are the 40% that don’t achieve SVR with the current tx with Peg and riba. If you’re undetectable by 12 weeks, I think the SVR rate becomes near 90%. elmo I stand corrected. Thanks elmo. /////// yep!  Now let’s get back to crepitating.  :-) elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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In article <14405-43B40B2E…@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net>, elmoemer…@webtv.net says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Re: question on 6 month post TX   >Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 10:02am From: >HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) >In article <14406-43B40443…@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net>, >elmoemer…@webtv.net says… >Re: question on 6 month post TX >Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 9:22am From: >HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) >In article <1135863974.603396.264…@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, >Chill…@rogers.com says… >Hi Everyone. I was at my appt. yesterday and I had a question for the >hep nurse. I am not sure I got a straight answer. I know I will get one >here. How many people tested negative for the virus from week 12, 24, 48 >to have the virus come back to life 6 months past the treatment. >According to my BCLD, about 25% show no response after 12 weeks and are >temporarily taken off medication. >I asked her this question because as you know I am in a study and the >nurse told me that everyone is responding to treatment but none have >completed the program. If everyone is responding to treatment then who >are the 40 percent who don’t? >Mags >thanks for the spellchecker link! >You can show SVR after 48 weeks but 6 months thereafter, test positive >again for HCV. That is the 40% they’re speaking of, mags. >//////////// >Sorry, Frank, but you’re incorrect. The 40% I believe Mags is referring >to are the 40% that don’t achieve SVR with the current tx with Peg and >riba. If you’re undetectable by 12 weeks, I think the SVR rate becomes >near 90%. >elmo >I stand corrected. Thanks elmo. >/////// >yep!  Now let’s get back to crepitating.  :-) >elmo

I farted and it popped like Bazooka bubble gum.  Does that count.   ;}

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Re: question on 6 month post TX   Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 4:20pm (CST+6) From: ga_mondra…@yahoo.com (Gordo

Christmas Traditions…

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Now I get it!!  Thanks, Kemosabe. Tonto’s horse ////////////// Herr Elmo Bumpfmeister I lost the password to the hotmail that CJ used as the "reply to" in newsgroups one, Complicating matters was a partial meltdown of microsoft server software for a few days. so until servers were repaired, etc, I had no hotmail. And the newsgroup needed me (ha ha) The folks at Hotmail, meanwhile, were finally able to process and thereby allow my Chester Field name. There is no deeper meening to the name. But the writing has changed. I could have stayed as The Lone Ranger since when I was 7. But nah, there are too many banditos here, I would never had a chance to sit down with Tonto and light up a Chester Field and some Loco Weed and Hi Oh Hi Oh Hi Oh Silver!….and Away! Chester cj Field <elmoemer…@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:20208-43AAB11C-157@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net… You must have been a bad boy that year, CJ. Don’t feel too bad, I still wanna be Tonto’s horse. If I get my wish, I’ll trot on up to Canada so you can ride me and shoot off your chrome plated six guns. I’ll bring ya a cowboy hat and sheriff’s badge too. elmo (what is this Chester Field business?) //////////// I was upset one Christmas morning because Santa in his wisdom had left for me a cap pistol and a painted metal toy parking garage with pumps. My brother got an inflatable horse that looked like a squishie duffelbag with ears on it, short necked son of a mare. Anyways I really wanted to ride on that horse and wave my pistol around in the air, rather than suckhole to my parking customers and shine chrome. I took that as a challenge, even back then. I morphed myself into Lone Ranger for quite a while. The sixks gun was a noble chrome nikel, and really heavy. White grips, I think. The cartiridges took percussion caps, the slugs were heavy lead. I ran around outside and ambushed bad folk, in the snow no less. I got the mumps shortly after that, but that is a story best left for later. I’ts a doozie. This Christmas Mango is giving astrology readings, although he is a bit green at that stuff. Let him do it, though. If he made black mistakes, no doubt he would look better on the spit than me when they come loking for Magicks around here. (err I mean Magi) The gifts thereof, That last line was meant for those that envy christmas tradittions. I think people just feel left out some point in their lives to enjoy getting togther with family and friends, with good will and sharing warmth Coyote Chester Loki "ghibelno" <ghibe…@yahoo.it> wrote in message

news:1135178130.815865.138410@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com… elmo wrote: Maybe instead, you could stuff one of those Christmas presents where the sun doesn’t shine, Paul2. I already asked you nicely to can the religious discussion so that we could get the focus back on hepc in this NG, rather than continue the arguments over religion. You’re driving people who aren’t interested in talking religion away from here and that pissses me off. Now I’m gonna get rude with you and anyone else that won’t drop the discussion. Well said, Elmo. I got REALLY sick of all the pseudo-religious off topic threads that lately have been started up and carried on by a lot of people. I tried to read something to understand what the heck was going on and why it can happen, but I HAD to quit reading a couple of weeks ago, as I couldn’t stand it no more. During the last two weeks, and currently, I do SKIP entire threads and tried to extract intresting messages, news and other from all this SHIT , but it is hard. A lot of people still try to help others, give advice etc., others just DELIBERATELY try to break balls: what an helping hand, isn’t it? So, I’d join the rude one, for once and would like to unload some crap on those who like it sooooo much, but I’ll keep myself. Let’s have a coffee, and a cigarette, this, too, will pass as well. Cheers, jeeb. http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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Buddy and I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year too, Doug. It only gets poot and toot if I eat the broccoli and beans.  :-) elmo //////// Re: Christmas Traditions…   Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Dec 22, 2005, 9:27am (CST+1) From: dttr…@adelphia.net (Doug) Maybe a little….. but you get some great Merry Christmas and Happy New Year wishes from all of us here at the half-a-farm to you and Buddy. So here’s an upturned cup a ‘nog…. cheers…..

The Postcard Project

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<elmoemer…@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:27483-43A45902-199@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net… > I’ll give my address to anyone who wants it, but you’ll have email me > for it.  I aint gonna post it on here.  Never know if you’ll get a bomb > or some anthrax in the mail one day.  Or some pissed off, gun toting > redneck from Texas, or something showing up at your front door.

Or what happened to me this summer… Into my office walks this crazed Viet Nam vet riba-troll from Florida, pissed off because they wouldn’t let him take his guns across the border! Ahahahahaha! Hope to see you here one day, Doc. I promise that you’ll meet lots of good people, have a great time and enjoy your fill of fresh prawns and BC Bud! And that offer is extended to all my fellow dragon-fighters. Spidey

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Re: The Postcard Project   Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Dec 17, 2005, 10:55am (CST-2) From: waterspi…@moonlight.net (Waterspider) <elmoemer…@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:27483-43A45902-199@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net… I’ll give my address to anyone who wants it, but you’ll have email me for it. I aint gonna post it on here. Never know if you’ll get a bomb or some anthrax in the mail one day. Or some pissed off, gun toting redneck from Texas, or something showing up at your front door. Or what happened to me this summer… Into my office walks this crazed Viet Nam vet riba-troll from Florida, pissed off because they wouldn’t let him take his guns across the border! Ahahahahaha! Hope to see you here one day, Doc. I promise that you’ll meet lots of good people, have a great time and enjoy your fill of fresh prawns and BC Bud! And that offer is extended to all my fellow dragon-fighters. Spidey ////////// I’m going to take you up on that offer, ya know.  We’ll have to take a taxi home from the pub, tho.  I don’t want to end up in any of those Canadian jails.   elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Michael Cody wrote: > eileen wrote: >> Waterspider wrote: >>> We need a change of subject, aye? >>> We did this a few years back, and I think it’s time for an update >>> (Curtis >>> being a postie probably jogged my memory). >>> Some of you guys remember, but for the newbies, here’s the drill: >>> If you want to take part and you’re not worried about rl problems >>> from it, >>> post your mailing address. Alternately, send it to those who request it >>> (assuming that you’re willing to disclose it) in a private e-mail. >>> Buy a handful of postcards or cards-with-envelopes to send to other >>> members >>> of ash-c. >>> Enjoy smiles when you check your mailbox and find cards from some of the >>> rest of us. >>> It’s very cool, really. For a time I had an ash-c wall in my office, >>> cards >>> from all over the world, from folks I got to know here on this group. >>> I will >>> cherish those cards forever, not to mention what a wonderful >>> morale-booster >>> they were while I was on treatment. >>> The original idea was to send postcards of where we lived, but of >>> course the >>> likely suspects (Elmo, Geb and a few others) got creative and sent >>> weird and >>> wonderful rather than pretty and touristy (mine were boring, just >>> scenics of >>> Pender Harbour). >>> Anyway, to get the ball rolling, here’s me: >>> Myrwin >>> Box 370 >>> Madeira Park BC >>> Canada V0N 2H0 >> I would think that if you’ve ever had an online stalker you would not >> post your home address for anyone to view. >> It has happened to a few people I know online here, who have had their >> life almost ruined by posting this info. >> The stalker can seem like a very nice person until you disagree with >> them and then the psycho part starts. >> This is a public forum here, don’t be so free with anything personal. >> eileen >> ps: Put your thinking caps on ladies, please > I agree. > Cody

I agree with Eileen and Cody. Maybe we could use email and from there use a web site that doesn’t have any meta tags or isn’t listed on any search engines. I’ve got some old web sites that haven’t shown any activity for a very long time that we could use or we could create a new site easy enough. I’ll be glad to help in any way I can. BTW, I’m in this time. Dwight edmoore at flash dot spam net (take out the spam to contact me)

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Ahh haha mye

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Waterspider wrote: > We need a change of subject, aye? > We did this a few years back, and I think it’s time for an update (Curtis > being a postie probably jogged my memory). > Some of you guys remember, but for the newbies, here’s the drill: > If you want to take part and you’re not worried about rl problems from it, > post your mailing address. Alternately, send it to those who request it > (assuming that you’re willing to disclose it) in a private e-mail. > Buy a handful of postcards or cards-with-envelopes to send to other members > of ash-c. > Enjoy smiles when you check your mailbox and find cards from some of the > rest of us. > It’s very cool, really. For a time I had an ash-c wall in my office, cards > from all over the world, from folks I got to know here on this group. I will > cherish those cards forever, not to mention what a wonderful morale-booster > they were while I was on treatment. > The original idea was to send postcards of where we lived, but of course the > likely suspects (Elmo, Geb and a few others) got creative and sent weird and > wonderful rather than pretty and touristy (mine were boring, just scenics of > Pender Harbour). > Anyway, to get the ball rolling, here’s me: > Myrwin > Box 370 > Madeira Park BC > Canada V0N 2H0

Cool idea, as soon as I get a mailing adress I’m in. mye

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"Russ" <sourdo55 at yahoo.com> wrote in message news:do4fm701k9j@enews4.newsguy.com… > mmm some good bud,,,,yum.. all they got down here is some mexican dirt > weed…. > can’t say much for the seafood around here either , hahahahaha…. > Spidey, I’ll be seeing you around the end of February!

Yippee! Cool, Russ, I look forward to meeting you! But are you sure you’ll be able to handle winter weather on the Sunshine Coast after all your time in Arizona? LOL! Spidey

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<elmoemer…@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:22403-43A582D5-539@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Re: The Postcard Project > Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Dec 17, 2005, 1:33pm (CST-2) > From: waterspi…@moonlight.net (Waterspider) > <elmoemer…@webtv.net> wrote in message > news:27482-43A46FE3-558@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net… > Re: The Postcard Project > Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Dec 17, 2005, 10:55am (CST-2) > From: waterspi…@moonlight.net (Waterspider) > <elmoemer…@webtv.net> wrote in message > news:27483-43A45902-199@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net… I’ll give my > address to anyone who wants it, but you’ll have email me for it. I aint > gonna post it on here. Never know if you’ll get a bomb or some anthrax > in the mail one day. Or some pissed off, gun toting redneck from Texas, > or something showing up at your front door. Or what happened to me this > summer… > Into my office walks this crazed Viet Nam vet riba-troll from Florida, > pissed off because they wouldn’t let him take his guns across the > border! > Ahahahahaha! > Hope to see you here one day, Doc. I promise that you’ll meet lots of > good people, have a great time and enjoy your fill of fresh prawns and > BC Bud! > And that offer is extended to all my fellow dragon-fighters. Spidey > ////////// > I’m going to take you up on that offer, ya know. We’ll have to take a > taxi home from the pub, tho. I don’t want to end up in any of those > Canadian jails. > ROFL! > Sorry, Doc, we’ll have to be walking. Guess I didn’t mention that there > aren’t any busses or cabs in Pender Harbour, but then if I told you all > the bad stuff you probably wouldn’t show up > Spidey > ///////////// > That’s ok, I enjoy long-distance stumbling.  Bad stuff?  I heard that if > the beavers sense that you’re scared of them, they’ll chase you down the > streets in Canada.  Not to fear tho, I never met a beaver I couldn’t > woop.

Yeah, but the wild beaver up here really do have teeth! <Spidey’s evil twin> <Spidey wouldn’t have said that>

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mmm some good bud,,,,yum.. all they got down here is some mexican dirt weed…. can’t say much for the seafood around here either , hahahahaha…. Spidey, I’ll be seeing you around the end of February! Russ "Waterspider" <waterspi…@moonlight.net> wrote in message

news:11q8npfjacsksdb@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> <elmoemer…@webtv.net> wrote in message > news:27483-43A45902-199@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net… >> I’ll give my address to anyone who wants it, but you’ll have email me >> for it.  I aint gonna post it on here.  Never know if you’ll get a bomb >> or some anthrax in the mail one day.  Or some pissed off, gun toting >> redneck from Texas, or something showing up at your front door. > Or what happened to me this summer… > Into my office walks this crazed Viet Nam vet riba-troll from Florida, > pissed off because they wouldn’t let him take his guns across the border! > Ahahahahaha! > Hope to see you here one day, Doc. I promise that you’ll meet lots of good > people, have a great time and enjoy your fill of fresh prawns and BC Bud! > And that offer is extended to all my fellow dragon-fighters. > Spidey

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I know who I want to stalk.   Bwahahahaaaaaaaa!    Post the addiessssssss. hahahharrrrr       Doug <elmoemer…@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:22403-43A583AA-541@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m already planning my stalking activities. Maybe I’ll send her a CD or > two.  :-) > elmo > //////// > Ahahaha! Score one for Thip. That was ’spewer’ > kj > by "Thip" <m…@privacy.net> Dec 17, 2005 at 03:59 PM AWRIGHT! Does this > mean Cody will start stalking me? And Elmo? Woohoo! > <tongue firmly in cheeck> > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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I’m already planning my stalking activities. Maybe I’ll send her a CD or two.  :-) elmo //////// Ahahaha! Score one for Thip. That was ’spewer’ kj by "Thip" <m…@privacy.net> Dec 17, 2005 at 03:59 PM AWRIGHT! Does this mean Cody will start stalking me? And Elmo? Woohoo! <tongue firmly in cheeck> http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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Re: The Postcard Project   Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Dec 17, 2005, 3:59pm (CST+1) From: m…@privacy.net (Thip) "eileen" <samiamtwo…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:1134836329.268481.113140@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com… I would think that if you’ve ever had an online stalker you would not post your home address for anyone to view. It has happened to a few people I know online here, who have had their life almost ruined by posting this info. The stalker can seem like a very nice person until you disagree with them and then the psycho part starts. This is a public forum here, don’t be so free with anything personal. eileen ps: Put your thinking caps on ladies, please AWRIGHT! Does this mean Cody will start stalking me? And Elmo? Woohoo! <tongue firmly in cheeck> ///////////// Yeah, I’m gonna have to know how to find you after you get your transplant.  You promised, ya know. <tongue firmly n les cheeque de Thipper> http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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Re: The Postcard Project   Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Dec 17, 2005, 1:33pm (CST-2) From: waterspi…@moonlight.net (Waterspider) <elmoemer…@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:27482-43A46FE3-558@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net… Re: The Postcard Project Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Dec 17, 2005, 10:55am (CST-2) From: waterspi…@moonlight.net (Waterspider) <elmoemer…@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:27483-43A45902-199@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net… I’ll give my address to anyone who wants it, but you’ll have email me for it. I aint gonna post it on here. Never know if you’ll get a bomb or some anthrax in the mail one day. Or some pissed off, gun toting redneck from Texas, or something showing up at your front door. Or what happened to me this summer… Into my office walks this crazed Viet Nam vet riba-troll from Florida, pissed off because they wouldn’t let him take his guns across the border! Ahahahahaha! Hope to see you here one day, Doc. I promise that you’ll meet lots of good people, have a great time and enjoy your fill of fresh prawns and BC Bud! And that offer is extended to all my fellow dragon-fighters. Spidey ////////// I’m going to take you up on that offer, ya know. We’ll have to take a taxi home from the pub, tho. I don’t want to end up in any of those Canadian jails. ROFL! Sorry, Doc, we’ll have to be walking. Guess I didn’t mention that there aren’t any busses or cabs in Pender Harbour, but then if I told you all the bad stuff you probably wouldn’t show up Spidey ///////////// That’s ok, I enjoy long-distance stumbling.  Bad stuff?  I heard that if the beavers sense that you’re scared of them, they’ll chase you down the streets in Canada.  Not to fear tho, I never met a beaver I couldn’t woop. elmo   http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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Ahahaha!  Score one for Thip.  That was ’spewer’ kj by "Thip" <m…@privacy.net> Dec 17, 2005 at 03:59 PM AWRIGHT!  Does this mean Cody will start stalking me?  And Elmo?  Woohoo! <tongue firmly in cheeck>

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"Waterspider" <waterspi…@moonlight.net> wrote in message

news:11q6vm6t57ojh52@corp.supernews.com… > We need a change of subject, aye? > We did this a few years back, and I think it’s time for an update (Curtis > being a postie probably jogged my memory). > Some of you guys remember, but for the newbies, here’s the drill: > If you want to take part and you’re not worried about rl problems from it, > post your mailing address. Alternately, send it to those who request it > (assuming that you’re willing to disclose it) in a private e-mail. > Buy a handful of postcards or cards-with-envelopes to send to other > members of ash-c. > Enjoy smiles when you check your mailbox and find cards from some of the > rest of us.

I’m game.  Besides, anything mailed helps pay me. Curtis Stinnett 3103 Vassar Dr Roswell NM  88203 I suppose I shouldn’t pass my address around.  After all, I deliver mail in a post Uni-Bomber, post anthrax world.  But if you want to stalk me, I should warn you.  I have 5 dogs. LOL.  And we have regular safety talks on suspicious mail. I certainly understand not posting your address online.  E-mail me privately and I’ll send you a postcard Curtis, Roswell NM

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"eileen" <samiamtwo…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:1134836329.268481.113140@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com… > I would think that if you’ve ever had an online stalker you would not > post your home address for anyone to view. > It has happened to a few people I know online here, who have had their > life almost ruined by posting this info. > The stalker can seem like a very nice person until you disagree with > them and then the psycho part starts. > This is a public forum here, don’t be so free with anything personal. > eileen > ps: Put your thinking caps on ladies, please

AWRIGHT!  Does this mean Cody will start stalking me?  And Elmo?  Woohoo! <tongue firmly in cheeck>

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<elmoemer…@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:27482-43A46FE3-558@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Re: The Postcard Project > Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Dec 17, 2005, 10:55am (CST-2) > From: waterspi…@moonlight.net (Waterspider) > <elmoemer…@webtv.net> wrote in message > news:27483-43A45902-199@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net… > I’ll give my address to anyone who wants it, but you’ll have email me > for it. I aint gonna post it on here. Never know if you’ll get a bomb or > some anthrax in the mail one day. Or some pissed off, gun toting redneck > from Texas, or something showing up at your front door. > Or what happened to me this summer… > Into my office walks this crazed Viet Nam vet riba-troll from Florida, > pissed off because they wouldn’t let him take his guns across the > border! > Ahahahahaha! > Hope to see you here one day, Doc. I promise that you’ll meet lots of > good people, have a great time and enjoy your fill of fresh prawns and > BC Bud! > And that offer is extended to all my fellow dragon-fighters. > Spidey > ////////// > I’m going to take you up on that offer, ya know.  We’ll have to take a > taxi home from the pub, tho.  I don’t want to end up in any of those > Canadian jails.

ROFL! Sorry, Doc, we’ll have to be walking. Guess I didn’t mention that there aren’t any busses or cabs in Pender Harbour, but then if I told you all the bad stuff you probably wouldn’t show up Spidey

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We need a change of subject, aye? We did this a few years back, and I think it’s time for an update (Curtis being a postie probably jogged my memory). Some of you guys remember, but for the newbies, here’s the drill: If you want to take part and you’re not worried about rl problems from it, post your mailing address. Alternately, send it to those who request it (assuming that you’re willing to disclose it) in a private e-mail. Buy a handful of postcards or cards-with-envelopes to send to other members of ash-c. Enjoy smiles when you check your mailbox and find cards from some of the rest of us. It’s very cool, really. For a time I had an ash-c wall in my office, cards from all over the world, from folks I got to know here on this group. I will cherish those cards forever, not to mention what a wonderful morale-booster they were while I was on treatment. The original idea was to send postcards of where we lived, but of course the likely suspects (Elmo, Geb and a few others) got creative and sent weird and wonderful rather than pretty and touristy (mine were boring, just scenics of Pender Harbour). Anyway, to get the ball rolling, here’s me: Myrwin Box 370 Madeira Park BC Canada V0N 2H0

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"Waterspider" <waterspi…@moonlight.net> wrote in message

news:11q6vm6t57ojh52@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We need a change of subject, aye? > We did this a few years back, and I think it’s time for an update (Curtis > being a postie probably jogged my memory). > Some of you guys remember, but for the newbies, here’s the drill: > If you want to take part and you’re not worried about rl problems from it, > post your mailing address. Alternately, send it to those who request it > (assuming that you’re willing to disclose it) in a private e-mail. > Buy a handful of postcards or cards-with-envelopes to send to other > members of ash-c. > Enjoy smiles when you check your mailbox and find cards from some of the > rest of us. > It’s very cool, really. For a time I had an ash-c wall in my office, cards > from all over the world, from folks I got to know here on this group. I > will cherish those cards forever, not to mention what a wonderful > morale-booster they were while I was on treatment. > The original idea was to send postcards of where we lived, but of course > the likely suspects (Elmo, Geb and a few others) got creative and sent > weird and wonderful rather than pretty and touristy (mine were boring, > just scenics of Pender Harbour). > Anyway, to get the ball rolling, here’s me: > Myrwin > Box 370 > Madeira Park BC > Canada V0N 2H0

Fun  count me in Sara Stobbe 20872 Brooklawn Dearborn Heights MI 48127

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"Waterspider" <waterspi…@moonlight.net> wrote in message

news:11q6vm6t57ojh52@corp.supernews.com… > We need a change of subject, aye?

Count me in! Kathy White 5178A Williams Circle Toccoa, GA  30577

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Waterspider wrote: > We need a change of subject, aye? > We did this a few years back, and I think it’s time for an update (Curtis > being a postie probably jogged my memory). > Some of you guys remember, but for the newbies, here’s the drill: > If you want to take part and you’re not worried about rl problems from it, > post your mailing address. Alternately, send it to those who request it > (assuming that you’re willing to disclose it) in a private e-mail. > Buy a handful of postcards or cards-with-envelopes to send to other members > of ash-c. > Enjoy smiles when you check your mailbox and find cards from some of the > rest of us. > It’s very cool, really. For a time I had an ash-c wall in my office, cards > from all over the world, from folks I got to know here on this group. I will > cherish those cards forever, not to mention what a wonderful morale-booster > they were while I was on treatment. > The original idea was to send postcards of where we lived, but of course the > likely suspects (Elmo, Geb and a few others) got creative and sent weird and > wonderful rather than pretty and touristy (mine were boring, just scenics of > Pender Harbour). > Anyway, to get the ball rolling, here’s me: > Myrwin > Box 370 > Madeira Park BC > Canada V0N 2H0

I would think that if you’ve ever had an online stalker you would not post your home address for anyone to view. It has happened to a few people I know online here, who have had their life almost ruined by posting this info. The stalker can seem like a very nice person until you disagree with them and then the psycho part starts. This is a public forum here, don’t be so free with anything personal. eileen ps: Put your thinking caps on ladies, please

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -eileen wrote: > Waterspider wrote: > > We need a change of subject, aye? > > We did this a few years back, and I think it’s time for an update (Curtis > > being a postie probably jogged my memory). > > Some of you guys remember, but for the newbies, here’s the drill: > > If you want to take part and you’re not worried about rl problems from it, > > post your mailing address. Alternately, send it to those who request it > > (assuming that you’re willing to disclose it) in a private e-mail. > > Buy a handful of postcards or cards-with-envelopes to send to other members > > of ash-c. > > Enjoy smiles when you check your mailbox and find cards from some of the > > rest of us. > > It’s very cool, really. For a time I had an ash-c wall in my office, cards > > from all over the world, from folks I got to know here on this group. I will > > cherish those cards forever, not to mention what a wonderful morale-booster > > they were while I was on treatment. > > The original idea was to send postcards of where we lived, but of course the > > likely suspects (Elmo, Geb and a few others) got creative and sent weird and > > wonderful rather than pretty and touristy (mine were boring, just scenics of > > Pender Harbour). > > Anyway, to get the ball rolling, here’s me: > > Myrwin > > Box 370 > > Madeira Park BC > > Canada V0N 2H0 > I would think that if you’ve ever had an online stalker you would not > post your home address for anyone to view. > It has happened to a few people I know online here, who have had their > life almost ruined by posting this info. > The stalker can seem like a very nice person until you disagree with > them and then the psycho part starts. > This is a public forum here, don’t be so free with anything personal. > eileen > ps: Put your thinking caps on ladies, please

One more thing. Cancel your posts ASAP!

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"eileen" <samiamtwo…@yahoo.com> wrote … – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Waterspider wrote: >> We need a change of subject, aye? >> We did this a few years back, and I think it’s time for an update (Curtis >> being a postie probably jogged my memory). >> Some of you guys remember, but for the newbies, here’s the drill: >> If you want to take part and you’re not worried about rl problems from >> it, >> post your mailing address. Alternately, send it to those who request it >> (assuming that you’re willing to disclose it) in a private e-mail. >> Buy a handful of postcards or cards-with-envelopes to send to other >> members >> of ash-c. >> Enjoy smiles when you check your mailbox and find cards from some of the >> rest of us. >> It’s very cool, really. For a time I had an ash-c wall in my office, >> cards >> from all over the world, from folks I got to know here on this group. I >> will >> cherish those cards forever, not to mention what a wonderful >> morale-booster >> they were while I was on treatment. >> The original idea was to send postcards of where we lived, but of course >> the >> likely suspects (Elmo, Geb and a few others) got creative and sent weird >> and >> wonderful rather than pretty and touristy (mine were boring, just scenics >> of >> Pender Harbour). >> Anyway, to get the ball rolling, here’s me: >> Myrwin >> Box 370 >> Madeira Park BC >> Canada V0N 2H0 > I would think that if you’ve ever had an online stalker you would not > post your home address for anyone to view. > It has happened to a few people I know online here, who have had their > life almost ruined by posting this info. > The stalker can seem like a very nice person until you disagree with > them and then the psycho part starts. > This is a public forum here, don’t be so free with anything personal. > eileen > ps: Put your thinking caps on ladies, please

I said that anyone worried about rl problems could send their addy in a private e-mail. Speaking for myself, I live in a small town with a high-profile job, so trying to hide my identity and address would be absurd. I publish the local paper, and when I started treatment my editorial disclosed that I had hepatitis c and that the Harbour Spiel would likely be wonky for a few months at least. I have no secrets here, and I can’t really imagine what harm a stalker could do to me. Further, usenet is no more a public forum than a telephone directory, and contact information is there for all to see. Waterspider

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I’ll give my address to anyone who wants it, but you’ll have email me for it.  I aint gonna post it on here.  Never know if you’ll get a bomb or some anthrax in the mail one day.  Or some pissed off, gun toting redneck from Texas, or something showing up at your front door.   elmo homeland security specialist http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -eileen wrote: > eileen wrote: >>Waterspider wrote: >>>We need a change of subject, aye? >>>We did this a few years back, and I think it’s time for an update (Curtis >>>being a postie probably jogged my memory). >>>Some of you guys remember, but for the newbies, here’s the drill: >>>If you want to take part and you’re not worried about rl problems from it, >>>post your mailing address. Alternately, send it to those who request it >>>(assuming that you’re willing to disclose it) in a private e-mail. >>>Buy a handful of postcards or cards-with-envelopes to send to other members >>>of ash-c. >>>Enjoy smiles when you check your mailbox and find cards from some of the >>>rest of us. >>>It’s very cool, really. For a time I had an ash-c wall in my office, cards >>>from all over the world, from folks I got to know here on this group. I will >>>cherish those cards forever, not to mention what a wonderful morale-booster >>>they were while I was on treatment. >>>The original idea was to send postcards of where we lived, but of course the >>>likely suspects (Elmo, Geb and a few others) got creative and sent weird and >>>wonderful rather than pretty and touristy (mine were boring, just scenics of >>>Pender Harbour). >>>Anyway, to get the ball rolling, here’s me: >>>Myrwin >>>Box 370 >>>Madeira Park BC >>>Canada V0N 2H0 >>I would think that if you’ve ever had an online stalker you would not >>post your home address for anyone to view. >>It has happened to a few people I know online here, who have had their >>life almost ruined by posting this info. >>The stalker can seem like a very nice person until you disagree with >>them and then the psycho part starts. >>This is a public forum here, don’t be so free with anything personal. >>eileen >>ps: Put your thinking caps on ladies, please > One more thing. Cancel your posts ASAP!

Too late for that. The posts are already on other servers like Google and the ones I use. Cody

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -eileen wrote: > Waterspider wrote: >>We need a change of subject, aye? >>We did this a few years back, and I think it’s time for an update (Curtis >>being a postie probably jogged my memory). >>Some of you guys remember, but for the newbies, here’s the drill: >>If you want to take part and you’re not worried about rl problems from it, >>post your mailing address. Alternately, send it to those who request it >>(assuming that you’re willing to disclose it) in a private e-mail. >>Buy a handful of postcards or cards-with-envelopes to send to other members >>of ash-c. >>Enjoy smiles when you check your mailbox and find cards from some of the >>rest of us. >>It’s very cool, really. For a time I had an ash-c wall in my office, cards >>from all over the world, from folks I got to know here on this group. I will >>cherish those cards forever, not to mention what a wonderful morale-booster >>they were while I was on treatment. >>The original idea was to send postcards of where we lived, but of course the >>likely suspects (Elmo, Geb and a few others) got creative and sent weird and >>wonderful rather than pretty and touristy (mine were boring, just scenics of >>Pender Harbour). >>Anyway, to get the ball rolling, here’s me: >>Myrwin >>Box 370 >>Madeira Park BC >>Canada V0N 2H0 > I would think that if you’ve ever had an online stalker you would not > post your home address for anyone to view. > It has happened to a few people I know online here, who have had their > life almost ruined by posting this info. > The stalker can seem like a very nice person until you disagree with > them and then the psycho part starts. > This is a public forum here, don’t be so free with anything personal. > eileen > ps: Put your thinking caps on ladies, please

I agree. Cody

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Fight the dragon ???

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Re: Fight the dragon ???   Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Wed, Dec 7, 2005, 4:54pm (CST+1) From: m…@privacy.net (Thip) In article <hnGlf.12271$wF.1182@trnddc08>, rosslynactiv…@verizon.net says… |When you sally out to fight a dragon, sometimes the dragon wins. | |Suppose you?ve been living a long time with this dragon. It?s grown |stronger with time. Is now the time to go out and try to slay it? | I think any time is a good time to slay it. Your chances decrease after failed therapy, but you CAN beat the disease. Elmo is living proof, and I think there’s someone else in here on his 4th try. /////////// Yep, it just requires a bigger and better ball bat.   elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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<rosslynactiv…@verizon.net> wrote … > When you sally out to fight a dragon, sometimes the dragon wins. Yep. > Suppose you

Starting NM283 Valopicitabine clinical trials

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On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 02:41:13 GMT, Mark <m…@home.com> wrote: >I just got in on a clinical trial of NM283 or Valopicitabine.

A bit more from the AASLD Conference: "Valopicitabine Plus Peginterferon Alfa-2a Highly Effective at Suppressing HCV in Peginterferon Plus Ribavirin Nonresponders Interim results of randomized, open-label, multicenter, phase 2b trial Summary of Key Conclusions Valopicitabine plus peginterferon alfa-2a demonstrated significantly greater anti-HCV activity than retreatment with peginterferon plus ribavirin in nonresponders with chronic hepatitis C Antiviral efficacy of valopicitabine plus peginterferon related to valopicitabine dose 67% of patients receiving valopicitabine (800 mg/day) plus peginterferon achieved > 2-log10 decline in HCV RNA after 12 weeks of treatment Overall acceptable safety and tolerability Gastrointestinal symptoms more common with valopicitabine treatment No viral breakthrough or valopicitabine resistance detected" A lot more data at http://clinicaloptions.com/Hepatitis/Conference%20Coverage/San%20 Francisco%202005/Capsules/95.aspx?Track=HCV%20Management %20Facing%20New%20Challenges (note: you have to re-assemble all three lines for the complete URL) Or go to http://clinicaloptions.com/Hepatitis.aspx and select "HCV Management…" under "CCO Independent Conference Coverage", and look for the Valopicitabine title above. This site requires free registration. Thomas — To reach me, complete my last name in the address.

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On 3 Dec 2005 05:34:04 -0800, "pajaritaflora" <birdsp…@gmail.com> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Mark wrote: >> I just got in on a clinical trial of NM283 or Valopicitabine. It takes >> the place of ribavirin. The trial is once a week interferon and twice >> a day NM283. There are 5 arms of the trial which vary the dose of >> NM283. >> This will be my first tx. Is there anyone currently trying this or >> with past experience with it? They told me the main side is nausea and >> occasional vomiting. >> My first visit is this Friday and I will start the tx within 2 weeks >> afterwards. This is all kind of quick but the cut-off for getting in >> on the trial is the 15th. Since this is only for first time tx people >> I thought I should try it before conventional treatment. >> Any thoughts, concerns, suggestions, or personal experiences you would >> like to share would be appreciated. Of course I have been googling and >> reading everything I can about the drug, just don’t know much about >> the details of the trial until this Friday. >> Mark >A thought came to mind immediately when reading your post.  Be carefull >that if you do get a side effect of vomiting that you do not dehydrate. >I can’t remember (and maybe someone could help me) if it is the >ribavarin or the interferon that causes dehydration. If it is the >interferon and you have another drug that may dehydrate you I would be >careful. Always have a drink available (non alcoholic lol). I also used >pedialite for hydration. >best of luck to you, >Mary Ann

Ok, good point. I will be careful about that. Thanks

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Re: Starting NM283 Valopicitabine clinical trials   Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Fri, Dec 2, 2005, 12:31pm (CST+1) From: kjohyay…@nospamyahoo.com (kjoh) So the IFN interferes with mutation. Got it. >Thanks. Not really…. IFN: stimulates the immune system to keep >looking for the and killing the virus Riba: prevents the virus from replicating, and >when it doesn’t replicate it doesn’t mutate So the Riba holds the virus down while the IFN >beats it to death .And the Neupogen circles the perimeter gunning for the lesser intruders… Son of Mozilla. kj ////////// Yeah, the interferon molecules are actually little men dressed in yellow leotards that hide out waiting for those pesky viri to come by, then they jump out and club them to death.   elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Mark wrote: > I just got in on a clinical trial of NM283 or Valopicitabine. It takes > the place of ribavirin. The trial is once a week interferon and twice > a day NM283. There are 5 arms of the trial which vary the dose of > NM283. > This will be my first tx. Is there anyone currently trying this or > with past experience with it? They told me the main side is nausea and > occasional vomiting. > My first visit is this Friday and I will start the tx within 2 weeks > afterwards. This is all kind of quick but the cut-off for getting in > on the trial is the 15th. Since this is only for first time tx people > I thought I should try it before conventional treatment. > Any thoughts, concerns, suggestions, or personal experiences you would > like to share would be appreciated. Of course I have been googling and > reading everything I can about the drug, just don’t know much about > the details of the trial until this Friday. > Mark

A thought came to mind immediately when reading your post.  Be carefull that if you do get a side effect of vomiting that you do not dehydrate. I can’t remember (and maybe someone could help me) if it is the ribavarin or the interferon that causes dehydration. If it is the interferon and you have another drug that may dehydrate you I would be careful. Always have a drink available (non alcoholic lol). I also used pedialite for hydration. best of luck to you, Mary Ann

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In article <eaj1p1pnais4pv9n7steojd5cmagveb…@4ax.com>, greyhack…@NOSPAMyahoo.com says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 15:53:41 -0600, HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) wrote: >>In article <a2q0p1toe814ci9av3kl6ua9s4g8imp…@4ax.com>, >>greyhack…@NOSPAMyahoo.com says… >>>On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 07:53:42 -0600, HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) >>wrote: >>>>So the IFN interferes with mutation.  Got it. Thanks. >>>ahahahahahaha! >>You just smoke a Doob GH?   ;} >Wellllll…..Yeah, I confess I was totally herbed at the time. >But it’s still reads as a pretty funny false ending to the thread >Cheers >/greyhackles

Riba Fog here.  I keep my driver’s license in my pocket just in case someone asks me my name.    ;}

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On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 15:53:41 -0600, HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) wrote: >In article <a2q0p1toe814ci9av3kl6ua9s4g8imp…@4ax.com>, >greyhack…@NOSPAMyahoo.com says… >>On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 07:53:42 -0600, HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) >wrote: >>>So the IFN interferes with mutation.  Got it. Thanks. >>ahahahahahaha! >You just smoke a Doob GH?   ;}

Wellllll…..Yeah, I confess I was totally herbed at the time. But it’s still reads as a pretty funny false ending to the thread Cheers /greyhackles

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In article <ga_mondragon-827604.11363602122…@news-rdr-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>, ga_mondra…@yahoo.com says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->In article <ScidnbjcafR7zA3enZ2dnUVZ_sydn…@comcast.com>, > HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) wrote: >> In article >> <ga_mondragon-538972.22020101122…@news-rdr-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>, >> ga_mondra…@yahoo.com says… >> >Hep C seems to become chronic because it can mutate to avoid the human >> >immune system which seems to give up after about 6 months of infection.   >> >Injections of interferon force the immune response to continue, and the >> >Riba stops the virus from replicating so it can’t mutate.  That’s the >> >theory. >> >In article <BJednVNjss6WtxLeRVn…@comcast.com>, >> > HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) wrote: >> >[...] >> >> Interesting as I thought that the IFN "interfered" with the replication >> >> process >> >> and the Riba is an anti-viral that kills the virus but that might be too >> >> simplistic >> >> a description. >> So the IFN interferes with mutation.  Got it. Thanks. >Not really…. >IFN: stimulates the immune system to keep looking for the and killing >the virus >Riba: prevents the virus from replicating, and when it doesn’t replicate >it doesn’t mutate >So the Riba holds the virus down while the IFN beats it to death

OK, now I got it.  I think.   ;}

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> So the IFN interferes with mutation.  Got it. >Thanks. >Not really…. >IFN: stimulates the immune system to keep >looking for the and killing >the virus >Riba: prevents the virus from replicating, and >when it doesn’t replicate >it doesn’t mutate >So the Riba holds the virus down while the IFN >beats it to death

..And the Neupogen circles the perimeter gunning for the lesser intruders… Son of Mozilla. kj

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In article <a2q0p1toe814ci9av3kl6ua9s4g8imp…@4ax.com>, greyhack…@NOSPAMyahoo.com says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 07:53:42 -0600, HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) wrote: >>In article >><ga_mondragon-538972.22020101122…@news-rdr-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>, >>ga_mondra…@yahoo.com says… >>>Hep C seems to become chronic because it can mutate to avoid the human >>>immune system which seems to give up after about 6 months of infection. >>>Injections of interferon force the immune response to continue, and the >>>Riba stops the virus from replicating so it can’t mutate.  That’s the >>>theory. >>>In article <BJednVNjss6WtxLeRVn…@comcast.com>, >>> HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) wrote: >>>[...] >>>> Interesting as I thought that the IFN "interfered" with the replication >>>> process >>>> and the Riba is an anti-viral that kills the virus but that might be too >>>> simplistic >>>> a description. >>So the IFN interferes with mutation.  Got it. Thanks. >ahahahahahaha!

You just smoke a Doob GH?   ;}

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Somebody’s got to be the guinea pig, hope the stuff does what you want it to. elmo ////////// From reading about Valo<whatever>, it seems to be a more focussed drug in terms of HCV – Ribavirin is, chemically, a more brute force method. My experience with anti-HIV drugs is that they all have radically different side-effects. I’m sure that there are a lot of people here who would be very interested in hearing about the side-effects that you experience (hopefully less than Riba) and how it affects your blood levels. It’s not clear why the interferon/riba combo works. The assumption is that the riba reduces the viral activity and ramping up the immune system gets the rest. The assumption is that the riba can be replaced by other drugs that suppress the virus with fewer side-effects. Hopefully that’s the case. Please stick around and keep us up to date with how it works! Gordo In article <iblso114nln1tbc4nnomb2j9eaioo0i…@4ax.com>, Mark <m…@home.com> wrote:

I just got in on a clinical trial of NM283 or Valopicitabine. It takes the place of ribavirin. The trial is once a week interferon and twice a day NM283. There are 5 arms of the trial which vary the dose of NM283. This will be my first tx. Is there anyone currently trying this or with past experience with it? They told me the main side is nausea and occasional vomiting. My first visit is this Friday and I will start the tx within 2 weeks afterwards. This is all kind of quick but the cut-off for getting in on the trial is the 15th. Since this is only for first time tx people I thought I should try it before conventional treatment. Any thoughts, concerns, suggestions, or personal experiences you would like to share would be appreciated. Of course I have been googling and reading everything I can about the drug, just don’t know much about the details of the trial until this Friday. Mark http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 07:53:42 -0600, HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) wrote: >In article ><ga_mondragon-538972.22020101122…@news-rdr-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>, >ga_mondra…@yahoo.com says… >>Hep C seems to become chronic because it can mutate to avoid the human >>immune system which seems to give up after about 6 months of infection.   >>Injections of interferon force the immune response to continue, and the >>Riba stops the virus from replicating so it can’t mutate.  That’s the >>theory. >>In article <BJednVNjss6WtxLeRVn…@comcast.com>, >> HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) wrote: >>[...] >>> Interesting as I thought that the IFN "interfered" with the replication >>> process >>> and the Riba is an anti-viral that kills the virus but that might be too >>> simplistic >>> a description. >So the IFN interferes with mutation.  Got it. Thanks.

ahahahahahaha!

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In article <ScidnbjcafR7zA3enZ2dnUVZ_sydn…@comcast.com>, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text - HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) wrote: > In article > <ga_mondragon-538972.22020101122…@news-rdr-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>, > ga_mondra…@yahoo.com says… > >Hep C seems to become chronic because it can mutate to avoid the human > >immune system which seems to give up after about 6 months of infection.   > >Injections of interferon force the immune response to continue, and the > >Riba stops the virus from replicating so it can’t mutate.  That’s the > >theory. > >In article <BJednVNjss6WtxLeRVn…@comcast.com>, > > HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) wrote: > >[...] > >> Interesting as I thought that the IFN "interfered" with the replication > >> process > >> and the Riba is an anti-viral that kills the virus but that might be too > >> simplistic > >> a description. > So the IFN interferes with mutation.  Got it. Thanks.

Not really…. IFN: stimulates the immune system to keep looking for the and killing the virus Riba: prevents the virus from replicating, and when it doesn’t replicate it doesn’t mutate So the Riba holds the virus down while the IFN beats it to death

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In article <ga_mondragon-538972.22020101122…@news-rdr-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>, ga_mondra…@yahoo.com says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hep C seems to become chronic because it can mutate to avoid the human >immune system which seems to give up after about 6 months of infection.   >Injections of interferon force the immune response to continue, and the >Riba stops the virus from replicating so it can’t mutate.  That’s the >theory. >In article <BJednVNjss6WtxLeRVn…@comcast.com>, > HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) wrote: >[...] >> Interesting as I thought that the IFN "interfered" with the replication >> process >> and the Riba is an anti-viral that kills the virus but that might be too >> simplistic >> a description.

So the IFN interferes with mutation.  Got it. Thanks.

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Hep C seems to become chronic because it can mutate to avoid the human immune system which seems to give up after about 6 months of infection.   Injections of interferon force the immune response to continue, and the Riba stops the virus from replicating so it can’t mutate.  That’s the theory. In article <BJednVNjss6WtxLeRVn…@comcast.com>,  HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) wrote:

[...] – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Interesting as I thought that the IFN "interfered" with the replication > process > and the Riba is an anti-viral that kills the virus but that might be too > simplistic > a description.

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No placebo. This one is for varied doses of the NM283. I asked them if they treat for anemia and they said they haven’t had problems with that on this medicine. She said the main side effect is nausea. I will find out more at the Dr tomorrow and will post here tomorrow night. Mark – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 11:31:51 -0600, "buster" <as…@cox.net> wrote: >No suggestions but good luck with the treatment. There are pro’s and con’s >too being part of a  "Trial" >pro is they are cheap (really cheap) >con is they are very regimented  hope you don’t get the placebo! >pro is if we didn’t have trials we would all lose out on what works and what >doesn’t! >Ask Mags about regimented, she may be pulled off  a trial cause she cant >take procrit or neupogen. Most of in here know that sooner or later you’ll >have to take one or both before treatment is over. >Kill the dragon   Buster >"Mark" <m…@home.com> wrote in message >news:iblso114nln1tbc4nnomb2j9eaioo0icvg@4ax.com… >>I just got in on a clinical trial of NM283 or Valopicitabine. It takes >> the place of ribavirin. The trial is once a week interferon and twice >> a day NM283. There are 5 arms of the trial which vary the dose of >> NM283. >> This will be my first tx. Is there anyone currently trying this or >> with past experience with it? They told me the main side is nausea and >> occasional vomiting. >> My first visit is this Friday and I will start the tx within 2 weeks >> afterwards. This is all kind of quick but the cut-off for getting in >> on the trial is the 15th. Since this is only for first time tx people >> I thought I should try it before conventional treatment. >> Any thoughts, concerns, suggestions, or personal experiences you would >> like to share would be appreciated. Of course I have been googling and >> reading everything I can about the drug, just don’t know much about >> the details of the trial until this Friday. >> Mark

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I am not sure if but I believe I was told on the phone it is a full 48 week tx. It is trial # NCT00118768. It is still open but I believe only until Dec 15. Below are some links about the trial but they really don’t have much info. I will know more tomorrow http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00118768?order=1 http://www.ctresearch.com/clinical-trial.html?trial_id=NCT00118768 On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 15:29:32 -0500, "kjoh" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<kjohyay…@nospamyahoo.com> wrote: >>Mark wrote: >>I just got in on a clinical trial of NM283 or >Valopicitabine. It takes >the place of ribavirin. >The trial is once a week interferon and twice >>a day NM283. There are 5 arms of the trial which >vary the dose of >NM283…Any thoughts, concerns, >suggestions, or personal experiences you >would >>like to share would be appreciated.  Mark >Hi all: >Here is a news article (heavily edited by me) from last may.  Note that >this study is sponsored by Idenix (makers of NM 283 = valopicitabine) on >previously untreated genotype 1 heppers, using Pegintron, and their second >phase II study will be larger and use Pegasys.  It doesn’t look like the >same study Mark will be in.  Also note that this next study will only run >24 weeks, and one of the 3 tx groups will be restricted to valopicitabine >monotherapy, one to NM283 plus Ifn combo, and one to the combo plus >ribavirin (ugh).  I don’t see a classical

vx950

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"aludude" <ha…@happy.speedlinq.nl> wrote in message

news:dmdb8e$b0v$1@azure.qinip.net… > Hi > I am looking for information on VX950, a drug from canada I believe. > I read about very good results and about the stuff going to be tested in > Europe this quarter. > Anyone knows anyting about it ? > I had no treatment what soever but my doc suggests I should start sometime > in 2006. > I have C type 1 a > Aludude

Hi ‘dude, VX950 will not be available for some time (years), assuming that it proves itself in clinical trials, and even then it may only be used as an adjunct to the current standard of pegylated interferon and an antiviral agent (Peg-Intron, Pegetron, Pegyasis). If your doc is suggesting that you start tx (treatment) in 2006, you’re likely not going to be doing the VX950. By the way, you’re in the right place for any hep c questions and remember, the only dumb questions are the ones you don’t ask. Good luck, and I hope you keep in touch. Waterspider p.s. I finished tx three years ago in June, no longer have hepatitis c and feel healthier than I have in decades. The treatment was rough but, at least in my case, do-able and worth every minute.

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Hi I am looking for information on VX950, a drug from canada I believe. I read about very good results and about the stuff going to be tested in Europe this quarter. Anyone knows anyting about it ? I had no treatment what soever but my doc suggests I should start sometime in 2006. I have C type 1 a Aludude

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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 23:17:27 +0100, "aludude" <ha…@happy.speedlinq.nl> wrote: >Hi >I am looking for information on VX950, a drug from canada I believe. >I read about very good results and about the stuff going to be tested in >Europe this quarter. >Anyone knows anyting about it ? >I had no treatment what soever but my doc suggests I should start sometime >in 2006. >I have C type 1 a >Aludude

*Of course* this has been frequently discussed – along with all the other potential treatment drugs. This is an HCV-oriented group, after all. VX-950 shows significant antiviral activity, which might be available outside of clinical trials at some point likely to be years in the future. Otherwise, all we "know" is what you can find by Googling  "vx-950". Cheers /greyhackles

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thanks so much  it really is great! Sorry I missed knowing Des "kjoh" <kjohyay…@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message

news:412341a3c0787835c55f8fa90600fd0f@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> by "Sara" <puff…@wowway.com> Nov 20, 2005 at 12:22 PM > Sara wrote: >>Hi Dort >>I’m new to the group… What’s the revamped >ditty from Des? >>sounds like fun…  :) >>Sara > Here it is Sara.  It’s priceless.  I get it stuck in my head too.  Thip > reposted it a couple days (weeks? months?) ago.  This board will go down > in history as a literary classic, methinks. I’m OK today. Just laying low. > Mags you’re right where I was. I had to drape mayself over the counter at > the pharmacy just to wait for them to fetch syringes.  They made me show > my ID. Lol. I’m doing better in that regard.  I stand up and have > conversations with people.  Even go for walks. > Hang, Baby. > Kathy > Another seriously bedraggled Polyanna > Worst Side Story > I Feel Shitty (Dez, ripped from some old broadway tune) > ============== > I feel shitty, > Oh, so shitty, > I feel shitty, and pissed off and ache, > And I pity > Any asshole who gets in my way, > I feel like barfing, > Oh, really barfing– > It’s alarming how barfing I feel, > And so shitty > That I hardly can believe I’m real. > See the weary hepper in that mirror there: > Who can that ugly face be? > Such a shitty face, > Such a shitty place, > Such a shitty smile, > Such a shitty me! > I feel nausea > And so dizzy– > Feel like going on a real crime spree, > For I’m on treatment > And boy is it killing me!

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On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:41:34 -0500, "mags" <chill…@rogers.com>, in message ID <b8ydnfsav_W9Fh3eRVn…@rogers.com>, in the newsgroup alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote: >What have I noticed during these 2 months. You will get spacey, you will >loose weight, and you will run fevers and feel flu like complete with the >green apple splatters. You will have better days than others but not 100% >days. Those who are not geno 1’s the time will fly by for 24 weeks of >treatment. It is the geno 1’s that have do dig down deep to find the >strength. I am forever calculating how much more time to go. >Mags

Yeah, I was forunate enough to only need a 24 week tx.  Early on was easy, then the temper started getting the better of me.  From around week 16 it really became a grind.  If I’d had to do 24 more weeks I guess I would have adapted somehow but it was nice to know that I had already done two thirds of the tx before it became an uphill struggle. I take my hat off to the 48 weekers.  I’m glad I didn’t need to experience what you experienced. — Paul Use the reply by email facility in your newsreader to send email

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"mags" wrote in message… > I am forever calculating how much more time to go. > Mags > 8 down 40 to go

I hear you.  I won’t say it "will", but it "should" get better. David 29 down, 19 to go.

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You got the right attitude Mags! Just accept that your gonna feel like shit and take the freaking meds. I must have spent the last five months at 30% but I made it. It worked for me. 48 weeks of TX and the treatment worked! I’m virus free!  10 months now since I ended TX and still no little dragons. You can do this baby! Just keep that lava flowing between those ears. Kill that Dragon, Julie "mags" <chill…@rogers.com> wrote in message

news:b8ydnfsav_W9Fh3eRVn-rg@rogers.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Not sure how many more posts I will do on this subject. I think I have given > you all the stuff to expect. What I have determined is that this is not a > cakewalk. It is doable but barely. You just get sick of getting sick. I look > at my Riba each morning and night and just about vomit knowing how spacey > and ill that they make me – its like a combo of a hallucinogenic and chemo. > The top of my head gives me a headache that feels like percolating lava. You > just live with this shit. If I had a physical job to do I could not work. I > don’t know how true that is for the masses out there but deskwork is hard > enough to get through. > What have I noticed during these 2 months. You will get spacey, you will > loose weight, and you will run fevers and feel flu like complete with the > green apple splatters. You will have better days than others but not 100% > days. Those who are not geno 1’s the time will fly by for 24 weeks of > treatment. It is the geno 1’s that have do dig down deep to find the > strength. I am forever calculating how much more time to go. > Mags > 8 down 40 to go

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Right on, Julie!!  I remember you having a hard time but I also remember your courage and inspiration.  Thanks for checking in, it’s great to ’see’ you.   elmo ///////// You got the right attitude Mags! Just accept that your gonna feel like shit and take the freaking meds. I must have spent the last five months at 30% but I made it. It worked for me. 48 weeks of TX and the treatment worked! I’m virus free! 10 months now since I ended TX and still no little dragons. You can do this baby! Just keep that lava flowing between those ears. Kill that Dragon, Julie "mags" <chill…@rogers.com> wrote in message

news:b8ydnfsav_W9Fh3eRVn-rg@rogers.com… Not sure how many more posts I will do on this subject. I think I have given you all the stuff to expect. What I have determined is that this is not a cakewalk. It is doable but barely. You just get sick of getting sick. I look at my Riba each morning and night and just about vomit knowing how spacey and ill that they make me – its like a combo of a hallucinogenic and chemo. The top of my head gives me a headache that feels like percolating lava. You just live with this shit. If I had a physical job to do I could not work. I don’t know how true that is for the masses out there but deskwork is hard enough to get through. What have I noticed during these 2 months. You will get spacey, you will loose weight, and you will run fevers and feel flu like complete with the green apple splatters. You will have better days than others but not 100% days. Those who are not geno 1’s the time will fly by for 24 weeks of treatment. It is the geno 1’s that have do dig down deep to find the strength. I am forever calculating how much more time to go. Mags 8 down 40 to go http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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"Julie" <Julie…@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:A0wgf.3957$N45.1430@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net… > You got the right attitude Mags! > Just accept that your gonna feel like shit and take the freaking meds. > I must have spent the last five months at 30% but I made it. > It worked for me. > 48 weeks of TX and the treatment worked! > I’m virus free!  10 months now since I ended TX and still no little > dragons. > You can do this baby! > Just keep that lava flowing between those ears. > Kill that Dragon, > Julie

Hey, Julie! Good to see you, and great to hear that you’ve killed your dragon! Please stop by again to remind the newbies that there are lots of tx success stories out there. It’s really good to hear if you’re on treatment or having a hard time deciding to go for it. Take care, Waterspider

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Wow Dave 29 shots already (number obsessing again).  I remember you having some issues in the beginning.  Do you actually have days were your head doesnt hurt and your eyes. Mags/Pegi "Canadave" <yeahri…@noway.com> wrote in message

news:9dSdncZ9At9CrxzenZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@rogers.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "mags" wrote in message… >> I am forever calculating how much more time to go. >> Mags >> 8 down 40 to go > I hear you.  I won’t say it "will", but it "should" get better. > David > 29 down, 19 to go.

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That is so great Julie – you inspire me.  I am heading to Mexico on 3 Jan and spending a month in Puerto Vallarta and not doing a dam thing.  If things get worse when I get back, I am packing in the towel and going on sick leave – I will do what I have to do to do it well! Mags/Pegi "Julie" <Julie…@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:A0wgf.3957$N45.1430@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You got the right attitude Mags! > Just accept that your gonna feel like shit and take the freaking meds. > I must have spent the last five months at 30% but I made it. > It worked for me. > 48 weeks of TX and the treatment worked! > I’m virus free!  10 months now since I ended TX and still no little > dragons. > You can do this baby! > Just keep that lava flowing between those ears. > Kill that Dragon, > Julie > "mags" <chill…@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:b8ydnfsav_W9Fh3eRVn-rg@rogers.com… >> Not sure how many more posts I will do on this subject. I think I have > given >> you all the stuff to expect. What I have determined is that this is not a >> cakewalk. It is doable but barely. You just get sick of getting sick. I > look >> at my Riba each morning and night and just about vomit knowing how spacey >> and ill that they make me – its like a combo of a hallucinogenic and > chemo. >> The top of my head gives me a headache that feels like percolating lava. > You >> just live with this shit. If I had a physical job to do I could not work. > I >> don’t know how true that is for the masses out there but deskwork is hard >> enough to get through. >> What have I noticed during these 2 months. You will get spacey, you will >> loose weight, and you will run fevers and feel flu like complete with the >> green apple splatters. You will have better days than others but not 100% >> days. Those who are not geno 1’s the time will fly by for 24 weeks of >> treatment. It is the geno 1’s that have do dig down deep to find the >> strength. I am forever calculating how much more time to go. >> Mags >> 8 down 40 to go

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Something else that might help is to freeze a couple of washcloths so that you can drape them over your forehead and eyeballs.  It feels really good and helps relieve the ache.   elmo //////// Wow Dave 29 shots already (number obsessing again). I remember you having some issues in the beginning. Do you actually have days were your head doesnt hurt and your eyes. Mags/Pegi "Canadave" <yeahri…@noway.com> wrote in message

news:9dSdncZ9At9CrxzenZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@rogers.com… "mags" wrote in message…

I am forever calculating how much more time to go. Mags 8 down 40 to go I hear you. I won’t say it "will", but it "should" get better. David 29 down, 19 to go. http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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Well done Kathy! I knew someone would have it! I am also happy to hear you are doing better…even if it is just standing upright when you talk to people! dort "kjoh" <kjohyay…@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message

news:412341a3c0787835c55f8fa90600fd0f@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> by "Sara" <puff…@wowway.com> Nov 20, 2005 at 12:22 PM > Sara wrote: >>Hi Dort >>I’m new to the group… What’s the revamped >ditty from Des? >>sounds like fun…  :) >>Sara > Here it is Sara.  It’s priceless.  I get it stuck in my head too.  Thip > reposted it a couple days (weeks? months?) ago.  This board will go down > in history as a literary classic, methinks. I’m OK today. Just laying low. > Mags you’re right where I was. I had to drape mayself over the counter at > the pharmacy just to wait for them to fetch syringes.  They made me show > my ID. Lol. I’m doing better in that regard.  I stand up and have > conversations with people.  Even go for walks. > Hang, Baby. > Kathy > Another seriously bedraggled Polyanna > Worst Side Story > I Feel Shitty (Dez, ripped from some old broadway tune) > ============== > I feel shitty, > Oh, so shitty, > I feel shitty, and pissed off and ache, > And I pity > Any asshole who gets in my way, > I feel like barfing, > Oh, really barfing– > It’s alarming how barfing I feel, > And so shitty > That I hardly can believe I’m real. > See the weary hepper in that mirror there: > Who can that ugly face be? > Such a shitty face, > Such a shitty place, > Such a shitty smile, > Such a shitty me! > I feel nausea > And so dizzy– > Feel like going on a real crime spree, > For I’m on treatment > And boy is it killing me!

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Hey Dort – isnt it great to get in touch with you feminine side – I know how much this is strange territory for you testerone based guys!  I actually do think of the war going on inside and that is one of the ways I get there. Hope to be virus free by my next checkup on Friday.  Who ever does this treatment more than once deserves a medal! You go Dort! mags "dortski" <dwil…@austin.rr.com> wrote in message

news:i_0gf.3067$Ox.612@tornado.texas.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Mags, > You hang in there girl! Don’t be so hard on yourself, you have a war going > on in your body, try to imagine that when you are feeling your worst it’s > the medication that is killing off the viri that has been so comfy in your > body for however many years. It is hell, but it is doable. I wish I had > better words of wisdom. Keep posting, as I am trying to participate more > on here, and you are just ahead of me on this journey so I will be behind > you all the way and hopefully be there for you when you feel like falling. > Gawd I suck at this support stuff, but I am trying! If it helps, you are > all in my prayers! > dort > "mags" <chill…@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:b8ydnfsav_W9Fh3eRVn-rg@rogers.com… >> Not sure how many more posts I will do on this subject. I think I have >> given you all the stuff to expect. What I have determined is that this is >> not a cakewalk. It is doable but barely. You just get sick of getting >> sick. I look at my Riba each morning and night and just about vomit >> knowing how spacey and ill that they make me – its like a combo of a >> hallucinogenic and chemo. The top of my head gives me a headache that >> feels like percolating lava. You just live with this shit. If I had a >> physical job to do I could not work. I don’t know how true that is for >> the masses out there but deskwork is hard enough to get through. >> What have I noticed during these 2 months. You will get spacey, you will >> loose weight, and you will run fevers and feel flu like complete with the >> green apple splatters. You will have better days than others but not 100% >> days. Those who are not geno 1’s the time will fly by for 24 weeks of >> treatment. It is the geno 1’s that have do dig down deep to find the >> strength. I am forever calculating how much more time to go. >> Mags >> 8 down 40 to go

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by "Sara" <puff…@wowway.com> Nov 20, 2005 at 12:22 PM Sara wrote: >Hi Dort >I’m new to the group… What’s the revamped >ditty from Des? >sounds like fun…  :) >Sara

Here it is Sara.  It’s priceless.  I get it stuck in my head too.  Thip reposted it a couple days (weeks? months?) ago.  This board will go down in history as a literary classic, methinks. I’m OK today. Just laying low.  Mags you’re right where I was. I had to drape mayself over the counter at the pharmacy just to wait for them to fetch syringes.  They made me show my ID. Lol. I’m doing better in that regard.  I stand up and have conversations with people.  Even go for walks. Hang, Baby. Kathy Another seriously bedraggled Polyanna Worst Side Story I Feel Shitty (Dez, ripped from some old broadway tune) ============== I feel shitty, Oh, so shitty, I feel shitty, and pissed off and ache, And I pity Any asshole who gets in my way, I feel like barfing, Oh, really barfing– It’s alarming how barfing I feel, And so shitty That I hardly can believe I’m real. See the weary hepper in that mirror there: Who can that ugly face be? Such a shitty face, Such a shitty place, Such a shitty smile, Such a shitty me! I feel nausea And so dizzy– Feel like going on a real crime spree, For I’m on treatment And boy is it killing me!

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Hey Sara, I no longer have it on my server, but perhaps Elmo or Waterspider could send it to you. His photo is on the family album. He rewrote the lyrics to the West Side Story song, I feel pretty…it goes something like this…."I feel shitty…oh so shitty…and pity the asshole who gets in my way"….or something to that affect. It’s hilarious. I’m sure someone still has the post. Nice to meet you so to speak by the way! dort "Sara" <puff…@wowway.com> wrote in message

news:D4adnYMjmZxPLR3eRVn-jQ@wideopenwest.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Dort > I’m new to the group… What’s the revamped ditty from Des? > sounds like fun…  :) > Sara

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Hi Dort I’m new to the group… What’s the revamped ditty from Des? sounds like fun…  :) Sara "dortski" <dwil…@austin.rr.com> wrote in message

news:XJ1gf.3085$Ox.693@tornado.texas.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hey Mags….I forgot to say cheer you when you achieve your SVR on a > shorter length of tx! Aren’t you part of a study that if you become > undetectable after a point they will shorten your time on tx? I am hoping > that is the case for you. > Good on your mom for being so understanding….moms can be surprising at > times like these can’t they? It made me laugh picturing you when you > opened the door to find her standing there. > I find singing that revamped ditty from Des helps, you remember it don’t > you? It works on two levels for me, it acknowledges how I truly feel and > makes me laugh at the same time. > Hope your days get better kiddo! > dort > "mags" <chill…@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:0-SdnVDVitTaPh3eRVn-oA@rogers.com… >> Hey Dort – isnt it great to get in touch with you feminine side – I know >> how much this is strange territory for you testerone based guys!  I >> actually do think of the war going on inside and that is one of the ways >> I get there. Hope to be virus free by my next checkup on Friday.  Who >> ever does this treatment more than once deserves a medal! >> You go Dort! >> mags >> "

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In article <XPqdne8J76zwCx3enZ2dnUVZ_v6dn…@rogers.com>, chill…@rogers.com says… >Do you actually have 100% days?  I have incredible brain processing >problems – but somehow I get to the answer but its fatiguing (does that make >sense lol).I am wondering if the meds they have me on, have stronger side >effects – although with my early success I am not going to tinker on this >one. >Mags

No. But some days when there’s no stress, like today so far, I feel no sides. It’s 5 1/2 hours so far.  I’ll probably feel a little down around 4-5 PM as that’s when it usually rears it’s ugly head. By then, I should be relaxing on my father-in-law’s couch watching football. >"Frank" <HangininTh…@verizon.com> wrote in message >news:5vGdnc4o0ZKuDx3enZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com… >> In article

<ga_mondragon-3ED28F.09560920112…@news-rdr-01-dummy.rdc-nyc.rr.co – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> m>, ga_mondra…@yahoo.com says… >>>Mags – >>>Sorry you’re having a rough time but you’re exactly right – you just >>>have to ride it out. >>>I didn’t have fevers from the interferon, but the Riba completely >>>knocked me on my ass.  Like a combination of a hangover, seasickness, >>>and cranky bitchiness. >>>G >> If I were to graph how I’ve felt the past 5 weeks it would look like an >> erratic >> sawtooth.  For instance, Thursday I felt fine all day. Left work early for >> my first >> Doc appointment. When I came home I decided I felt good enough to do a 20 >> minute stint on the stationary bike after I telecommute until end of the >> business day (5PM) not to get behind in my work.  At about 4:45 I no >> longer >> felt up to doing the workout so I had to bag it. I could have forced >> myself but >> didn’t.  But that’s the way it’s been for me so far.  I never know when >> it’s >> going to hit.  It’s like a sniper. >>>In article <b8ydnfsav_W9Fh3eRVn…@rogers.com>, >>> "mags" <chill…@rogers.com> wrote: >>>> Not sure how many more posts I will do on this subject. I think I have >> given >>>> you all the stuff to expect. What I have determined is that this is not >>>> a >>>> cakewalk. It is doable but barely. You just get sick of getting sick. I >>>> look >>>> at my Riba each morning and night and just about vomit knowing how >> spacey >>>> and ill that they make me – its like a combo of a hallucinogenic and >>>> chemo. >>>> The top of my head gives me a headache that feels like percolating lava. >> You >>>> just live with this shit. If I had a physical job to do I could not >>>> work. I >>>> don’t know how true that is for the masses out there but deskwork is >>>> hard >>>> enough to get through. >>>> What have I noticed during these 2 months. You will get spacey, you will >>>> loose weight, and you will run fevers and feel flu like complete with >>>> the >>>> green apple splatters. You will have better days than others but not >>>> 100% >>>> days. Those who are not geno 1’s the time will fly by for 24 weeks of >>>> treatment. It is the geno 1’s that have do dig down deep to find the >>>> strength. I am forever calculating how much more time to go. >>>> Mags >>>> 8 down 40 to go

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 Hey Mags….I forgot to say cheer you when you achieve your SVR on a shorter length of tx! Aren’t you part of a study that if you become undetectable after a point they will shorten your time on tx? I am hoping that is the case for you. Good on your mom for being so understanding….moms can be surprising at times like these can’t they? It made me laugh picturing you when you opened the door to find her standing there. I find singing that revamped ditty from Des helps, you remember it don’t you? It works on two levels for me, it acknowledges how I truly feel and makes me laugh at the same time. Hope your days get better kiddo! dort "mags" <chill…@rogers.com> wrote in message

news:0-SdnVDVitTaPh3eRVn-oA@rogers.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hey Dort – isnt it great to get in touch with you feminine side – I know > how much this is strange territory for you testerone based guys!  I > actually do think of the war going on inside and that is one of the ways I > get there. Hope to be virus free by my next checkup on Friday.  Who ever > does this treatment more than once deserves a medal! > You go Dort! > mags > "

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Thanks Elmo.  This pollyanna is bedragled but not down lol.  Yes my journey of looking for better things to come has turned into a journey of survival. They should put heppers on the Survivor show – would make interesting material. I wonder what Alan would be like?  Well I like to drink red wine – thats out.  My new hobby is a toke or two – my mother came over just after I lit up last week so I just told her – her response was well if it helps why not – Melissa Etheridge used it too lol. back to removing wallpaper Mags <elmoemer…@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:15198-4380992B-17@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Shot 8 > Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 9:41am (CST+1) > From: chill…@rogers.com (mags) > Not sure how many more posts I will do on this subject. I think I have > given you all the stuff to expect. What I have determined is that this > is not a cakewalk. It is doable but barely. You just get sick of getting > sick. I look at my Riba each morning and night and just about vomit > knowing how spacey and ill that they make me – its like a combo of a > hallucinogenic and chemo. The top of my head gives me a headache that > feels like percolating lava. You just live with this shit. If I had a > physical job to do I could not work. I don’t know how true that is for > the masses out there but deskwork is hard enough to get through. > What have I noticed during these 2 months. You will get spacey, you will > loose weight, and you will run fevers and feel flu like complete with > the green apple splatters. You will have better days than others but not > 100% days. Those who are not geno 1’s the time will fly by for 24 weeks > of treatment. It is the geno 1’s that have do dig down deep to find the > strength. I am forever calculating how much more time to go. > Mags > 8 down 40 to go > /////////// > I think I know exactly where you’re at, Mags.  Was wondering when you’d > ‘hit the wall’.  Sorry, but I laughed when you said you didn’t know how > much longer you’d be able to keep your journal going.  ahahahah!!  I > sort of figured from day 1 and your journal that you’d get sick and > tired of being sick and tired and that the journal would go by the > wayside.  It was inevitable.  ahahahahaha!!! > Hey, you’re beating the dragon…..you know you have to keep going on. > Find some things that bring you enjoyment and absorb yourself in them. > It’ll help immensely. > Most of all, quit counting days and months.  You know you’ve got a long > ways to go, but you don’t need to obsess over it.  You’ll make it thru > aok, you’re a trooper. > Elmo > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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Shot 8   Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 9:41am (CST+1) From: chill…@rogers.com (mags) Not sure how many more posts I will do on this subject. I think I have given you all the stuff to expect. What I have determined is that this is not a cakewalk. It is doable but barely. You just get sick of getting sick. I look at my Riba each morning and night and just about vomit knowing how spacey and ill that they make me – its like a combo of a hallucinogenic and chemo. The top of my head gives me a headache that feels like percolating lava. You just live with this shit. If I had a physical job to do I could not work. I don’t know how true that is for the masses out there but deskwork is hard enough to get through. What have I noticed during these 2 months. You will get spacey, you will loose weight, and you will run fevers and feel flu like complete with the green apple splatters. You will have better days than others but not 100% days. Those who are not geno 1’s the time will fly by for 24 weeks of treatment. It is the geno 1’s that have do dig down deep to find the strength. I am forever calculating how much more time to go. Mags 8 down 40 to go /////////// I think I know exactly where you’re at, Mags.  Was wondering when you’d ‘hit the wall’.  Sorry, but I laughed when you said you didn’t know how much longer you’d be able to keep your journal going.  ahahahah!!  I sort of figured from day 1 and your journal that you’d get sick and tired of being sick and tired and that the journal would go by the wayside.  It was inevitable.  ahahahahaha!!! Hey, you’re beating the dragon…..you know you have to keep going on. Find some things that bring you enjoyment and absorb yourself in them. It’ll help immensely.   Most of all, quit counting days and months.  You know you’ve got a long ways to go, but you don’t need to obsess over it.  You’ll make it thru aok, you’re a trooper.   Elmo   http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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Hey Gordo – don’t feel sorry for me lol – but I love your description of Riba sides – right on Mcduff! Mags "Gordo Mondragon" <ga_mondra…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:ga_mondragon-3ED28F.09560920112005@news-rdr-01-dummy.rdc-nyc.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Mags – > Sorry you’re having a rough time but you’re exactly right – you just > have to ride it out. > I didn’t have fevers from the interferon, but the Riba completely > knocked me on my ass.  Like a combination of a hangover, seasickness, > and cranky bitchiness. > G > In article <b8ydnfsav_W9Fh3eRVn…@rogers.com>, > "mags" <chill…@rogers.com> wrote: >> Not sure how many more posts I will do on this subject. I think I have >> given >> you all the stuff to expect. What I have determined is that this is not a >> cakewalk. It is doable but barely. You just get sick of getting sick. I >> look >> at my Riba each morning and night and just about vomit knowing how spacey >> and ill that they make me – its like a combo of a hallucinogenic and >> chemo. >> The top of my head gives me a headache that feels like percolating lava. >> You >> just live with this shit. If I had a physical job to do I could not work. >> I >> don’t know how true that is for the masses out there but deskwork is hard >> enough to get through. >> What have I noticed during these 2 months. You will get spacey, you will >> loose weight, and you will run fevers and feel flu like complete with the >> green apple splatters. You will have better days than others but not 100% >> days. Those who are not geno 1’s the time will fly by for 24 weeks of >> treatment. It is the geno 1’s that have do dig down deep to find the >> strength. I am forever calculating how much more time to go. >> Mags >> 8 down 40 to go

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Do you actually have 100% days?  I have incredible brain processing problems – but somehow I get to the answer but its fatiguing (does that make sense lol).I am wondering if the meds they have me on, have stronger side effects – although with my early success I am not going to tinker on this one. Mags "Frank" <HangininTh…@verizon.com> wrote in message

news:5vGdnc4o0ZKuDx3enZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article > <ga_mondragon-3ED28F.09560920112…@news-rdr-01-dummy.rdc-nyc.rr.co > m>, ga_mondra…@yahoo.com says… >>Mags – >>Sorry you’re having a rough time but you’re exactly right – you just >>have to ride it out. >>I didn’t have fevers from the interferon, but the Riba completely >>knocked me on my ass.  Like a combination of a hangover, seasickness, >>and cranky bitchiness. >>G > If I were to graph how I’ve felt the past 5 weeks it would look like an > erratic > sawtooth.  For instance, Thursday I felt fine all day. Left work early for > my first > Doc appointment. When I came home I decided I felt good enough to do a 20 > minute stint on the stationary bike after I telecommute until end of the > business day (5PM) not to get behind in my work.  At about 4:45 I no > longer > felt up to doing the workout so I had to bag it. I could have forced > myself but > didn’t.  But that’s the way it’s been for me so far.  I never know when > it’s > going to hit.  It’s like a sniper. >>In article <b8ydnfsav_W9Fh3eRVn…@rogers.com>, >> "mags" <chill…@rogers.com> wrote: >>> Not sure how many more posts I will do on this subject. I think I have > given >>> you all the stuff to expect. What I have determined is that this is not >>> a >>> cakewalk. It is doable but barely. You just get sick of getting sick. I >>> look >>> at my Riba each morning and night and just about vomit knowing how > spacey >>> and ill that they make me – its like a combo of a hallucinogenic and >>> chemo. >>> The top of my head gives me a headache that feels like percolating lava. > You >>> just live with this shit. If I had a physical job to do I could not >>> work. I >>> don’t know how true that is for the masses out there but deskwork is >>> hard >>> enough to get through. >>> What have I noticed during these 2 months. You will get spacey, you will >>> loose weight, and you will run fevers and feel flu like complete with >>> the >>> green apple splatters. You will have better days than others but not >>> 100% >>> days. Those who are not geno 1’s the time will fly by for 24 weeks of >>> treatment. It is the geno 1’s that have do dig down deep to find the >>> strength. I am forever calculating how much more time to go. >>> Mags >>> 8 down 40 to go

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Mags, You hang in there girl! Don’t be so hard on yourself, you have a war going on in your body, try to imagine that when you are feeling your worst it’s the medication that is killing off the viri that has been so comfy in your body for however many years. It is hell, but it is doable. I wish I had better words of wisdom. Keep posting, as I am trying to participate more on here, and you are just ahead of me on this journey so I will be behind you all the way and hopefully be there for you when you feel like falling. Gawd I suck at this support stuff, but I am trying! If it helps, you are all in my prayers! dort "mags" <chill…@rogers.com> wrote in message

news:b8ydnfsav_W9Fh3eRVn-rg@rogers.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Not sure how many more posts I will do on this subject. I think I have > given you all the stuff to expect. What I have determined is that this is > not a cakewalk. It is doable but barely. You just get sick of getting > sick. I look at my Riba each morning and night and just about vomit > knowing how spacey and ill that they make me – its like a combo of a > hallucinogenic and chemo. The top of my head gives me a headache that > feels like percolating lava. You just live with this shit. If I had a > physical job to do I could not work. I don’t know how true that is for the > masses out there but deskwork is hard enough to get through. > What have I noticed during these 2 months. You will get spacey, you will > loose weight, and you will run fevers and feel flu like complete with the > green apple splatters. You will have better days than others but not 100% > days. Those who are not geno 1’s the time will fly by for 24 weeks of > treatment. It is the geno 1’s that have do dig down deep to find the > strength. I am forever calculating how much more time to go. > Mags > 8 down 40 to go

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In article <ga_mondragon-3ED28F.09560920112…@news-rdr-01-dummy.rdc-nyc.rr.co m>, ga_mondra…@yahoo.com says… >Mags – >Sorry you’re having a rough time but you’re exactly right – you just >have to ride it out. >I didn’t have fevers from the interferon, but the Riba completely >knocked me on my ass.  Like a combination of a hangover, seasickness, >and cranky bitchiness. >G

If I were to graph how I’ve felt the past 5 weeks it would look like an erratic sawtooth.  For instance, Thursday I felt fine all day. Left work early for my first Doc appointment. When I came home I decided I felt good enough to do a 20 minute stint on the stationary bike after I telecommute until end of the business day (5PM) not to get behind in my work.  At about 4:45 I no longer felt up to doing the workout so I had to bag it. I could have forced myself but didn’t.  But that’s the way it’s been for me so far.  I never know when it’s going to hit.  It’s like a sniper. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->In article <b8ydnfsav_W9Fh3eRVn…@rogers.com>, > "mags" <chill…@rogers.com> wrote: >> Not sure how many more posts I will do on this subject. I think I have given >> you all the stuff to expect. What I have determined is that this is not a >> cakewalk. It is doable but barely. You just get sick of getting sick. I look >> at my Riba each morning and night and just about vomit knowing how spacey >> and ill that they make me – its like a combo of a hallucinogenic and chemo. >> The top of my head gives me a headache that feels like percolating lava. You >> just live with this shit. If I had a physical job to do I could not work. I >> don’t know how true that is for the masses out there but deskwork is hard >> enough to get through. >> What have I noticed during these 2 months. You will get spacey, you will >> loose weight, and you will run fevers and feel flu like complete with the >> green apple splatters. You will have better days than others but not 100% >> days. Those who are not geno 1’s the time will fly by for 24 weeks of >> treatment. It is the geno 1’s that have do dig down deep to find the >> strength. I am forever calculating how much more time to go. >> Mags >> 8 down 40 to go

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In article <b8ydnfsav_W9Fh3eRVn…@rogers.com>, chill…@rogers.com says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Not sure how many more posts I will do on this subject. I think I have given >you all the stuff to expect. What I have determined is that this is not a >cakewalk. It is doable but barely. You just get sick of getting sick. I look >at my Riba each morning and night and just about vomit knowing how spacey >and ill that they make me – its like a combo of a hallucinogenic and chemo. >The top of my head gives me a headache that feels like percolating lava. You >just live with this shit. If I had a physical job to do I could not work. I >don’t know how true that is for the masses out there but deskwork is hard >enough to get through. >What have I noticed during these 2 months. You will get spacey, you will >loose weight, and you will run fevers and feel flu like complete with the >green apple splatters. You will have better days than others but not 100% >days. Those who are not geno 1’s the time will fly by for 24 weeks of >treatment. It is the geno 1’s that have do dig down deep to find the >strength. I am forever calculating how much more time to go. >Mags >8 down 40 to go

Hi mags.  Sorry your having so many problems.  Hang in there.  Hopefully you’ll be able to manage it as time goes by.

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Mags – Sorry you’re having a rough time but you’re exactly right – you just have to ride it out. I didn’t have fevers from the interferon, but the Riba completely knocked me on my ass.  Like a combination of a hangover, seasickness, and cranky bitchiness. G In article <b8ydnfsav_W9Fh3eRVn…@rogers.com>, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text - "mags" <chill…@rogers.com> wrote: > Not sure how many more posts I will do on this subject. I think I have given > you all the stuff to expect. What I have determined is that this is not a > cakewalk. It is doable but barely. You just get sick of getting sick. I look > at my Riba each morning and night and just about vomit knowing how spacey > and ill that they make me – its like a combo of a hallucinogenic and chemo. > The top of my head gives me a headache that feels like percolating lava. You > just live with this shit. If I had a physical job to do I could not work. I > don’t know how true that is for the masses out there but deskwork is hard > enough to get through. > What have I noticed during these 2 months. You will get spacey, you will > loose weight, and you will run fevers and feel flu like complete with the > green apple splatters. You will have better days than others but not 100% > days. Those who are not geno 1’s the time will fly by for 24 weeks of > treatment. It is the geno 1’s that have do dig down deep to find the > strength. I am forever calculating how much more time to go. > Mags > 8 down 40 to go

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Not sure how many more posts I will do on this subject. I think I have given you all the stuff to expect. What I have determined is that this is not a cakewalk. It is doable but barely. You just get sick of getting sick. I look at my Riba each morning and night and just about vomit knowing how spacey and ill that they make me – its like a combo of a hallucinogenic and chemo. The top of my head gives me a headache that feels like percolating lava. You just live with this shit. If I had a physical job to do I could not work. I don’t know how true that is for the masses out there but deskwork is hard enough to get through. What have I noticed during these 2 months. You will get spacey, you will loose weight, and you will run fevers and feel flu like complete with the green apple splatters. You will have better days than others but not 100% days. Those who are not geno 1’s the time will fly by for 24 weeks of treatment. It is the geno 1’s that have do dig down deep to find the strength. I am forever calculating how much more time to go. Mags 8 down 40 to go

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Back when I was on treatment, hanging around the campfire eating roasted wooly mammoth with my fellow cave dwellers was most enjoyable.  The sex was pretty good too!  :-)   Elmo (the Neanderthal) /////////// cozy in our caves, isn’t it Kathy? again, thanks for the ‘heads up’ S "Alan" <a…@veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk> wrote in message

news:memo.20051117180722.508K@veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk… In article <68e753fb3fe65603058dacd2f04c9…@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com>, kjohyay…@nospamyahoo.com (kjoh) wrote:

Hi Sara, do you know about a thing called "killfile?" If you don’t, this might be a good time learn It’s a newsreader trick you can use to block messages from idiots, to keep them out of your face. I don’t know how it works, but someone here can help you. Cheers Kathy ROFLMAO You just right click and then click ignore, but then you still have hepatitis, while all those who listened to me, along with myself, don’t any more. Poor little Kathy, sat with her fingers in her ears, and her hands over her eyes, like two stupid monkeys rolled into one. You go pay for your drugs manufactured by the same man whom John Murtha just called a liar in the Senate. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4446884.stm Hey, I bet you go and take Tamiflu too. *snigger* And Kathy darling, when you call somebody an idiot, you should be very careful, because you might just end up being bitch-slapped into the middle of next week. But instead, to allow you to stay in your dream world until reality strikes home, which should be as soon as the cold weather hits, I will now go, so do please stop your *whining* you *stoopid* *feral* *cave* *dweller* Lord Cerne Abbas http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/identity.html http://lordcerneabbastoo.blogspot.com/ 50 Years Is Enough http://50years.org

48th shot done…whew

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Michael Arends wrote: > Smiling Wickedly,  pajaritaflora answered: > > Hey guys n gals, > > It has been done. The 48th shot. It really is true. I can hardly > > believe it. Which is quite odd because I counted every single > > week…sometimes twice in a riba moment. That part is done!  I’ve been > > anxious and wimpery since I did it. I guess stress comes with even some > > good changes in life. > WOOWEEE!!!  I am *SO* proud of you MaryAnn. You did it. I mean I always > knew you could and would, But, I’m still proud of you.  It’s no *small* > feat completing 48 weeks of TX. > > Soo I’ve taken a few tokes and thought I would hang out here with you > > folks for a bit…. cause you are the best. Thanks for the serenades > > I’ve been thinking about what I have learned and how my viewpoint (if > > not life), has changed. I’ve done some crazy shit in my life. I think I > > have had to have been the bravest ever during diagnosis, preparations , > > and now,  48 weeks of treatment. I’m going to keep this as practice and > > use the bravery that I developed for another task. …..ahh desert > > trekking again > > I wonder if these changes I feel at the core of me ….., are going to > > fade away as quickly as the side effects……I don’t think so. I sure > > learned more about the meaning of neccessity during this treatment. The > > pretty nails and heels came off pretty darn quick. > So Far, I’ve found that I have some feelings of a profound change.  I > think I appreciate everything I have just a little bit more,. > > Every retail or customer service person within a 2 mile radius has been > > bitched at more than they ever deserve. I thanked them at the pharmacy > > yesterday and the receptionist at the GI doc’s office is getting > > flowers tomorrow when I go in for my appointment……(I think it is > > tomorrow ;( ) > > The disability insurance people know I’m not kidding when I say a side > > effect I have is forgetfullness. Hey Newbies ….I’ve seen this advice > > on this group many times; "get automatic payments for your bill pay" > > …….omg that is so helpfull. > > I have also had some of the most patient friends. Some people are > > capable of putting up with the crazies very well. Those are the best > > kind (it also helps if they can cook). Some of those friends are here. > > i am really greatful for them.           KFE and JK rock! > > I developed the skills of persistance and patience.  I know where the > > strengths lie in their pursuits. It is how I was able to undertake > > tasks I would have previously thought unattainable in this condition. > > I also took to writing quite a bit…….volumes actually…… It was > > often easier than verbal communication. My spelling and grammar still > > sucks, but I found I could express myself better via the written word. > > undetectable since week 12 test and doing the *almost* last one > > tomorrow…… > > I’m tired, I’m gonna fly > > Peace, > > Mary Ann > Take care of yourself Sugar.. and may the Rest and Relaxation begin for you. > — > *..