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I’ve seen bartenders and liquor store owners refuse to sell wine to people who were already drunk. Does that mean they were "bigots", you fucking idiot?HAHAHAHA!
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You nailed him, only your post was also crossed linked all over the Usernet. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In one age, called the Second Age by some, (an Age yet to come, an Age long past) someone claiming to be Fred Ziffel wrote In one age, called the Second Age by some, (an Age yet to come, an Age long past) someone claiming to be Fred Ziffel wrote Classic repost from 2001. Not all links may be active today but the info is timeless. All links currently active for verification– 02/10/2001 Special Note February 6, 2004: An attempt was made to get new working links for links which are now dead. If anyone thinks I am making a stretch accusing Jewish teachings of being bigoted then just use this simple test: substitute Jew or Jewish with white and non-Jew with non-white. We don’t want two standards do we? <<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C.Sec. 107. – Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use [The fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. [I]n any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include – (1) whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes.. ((this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. – FAIR USE INTENDED)) And the certified Usenet Kook strikes again — never mind that this post has been refuted many times over: zie’ll just change zir nym and make you filter zie again… Personal attacks aren’t refuting meand what I posted is what anyone can find at Jewish web sites! I gave the links too so live with it! Nor did I claim it was a refutation — merely pointing out that you ignore the refutation that *has* been offered, and insist on cross posting your rants all over Usenet and changing your nym to foil kill filters.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "Raymond" Get a life, grow up, no one cares what you think about Jews or your bigoted view of life. Can’t refute my post can you? I quoted what Jewish Rabbis teach about non-Jews and you have a fit because I made the otherwise secretive bigotry against the rest of mankind known. I am not the one who needs to grow up and get a life- you are! BTW as for what you call my "bigoted view of life" why don’t you explain why what Jews teach (which I have exposed) is NOT bigoted? Is this or is this not bigotry against the rest of humanity:
Refute WHAT?? You are a Bigot I can not refute that, and I really do not care to try. You prove that with every word you post. You can quote all you like from the Sunday comics if you like, selectively people can find what they want or cut it out of the whole, and make it look like anything they like. Doesn’t make it true, and when one person points at another and calls them names, when they themselves are doing the same thing by doing that. What is there to refute? Well the Jews don’t teach what you so called exposed, and I really do not care what your posting or what you say they said. They are not here to argue, you go to a Christian NG and hide from all their News groups to post this stuff. All the more reason to dismiss you and your bigoted reasons. You as visible as a light on a dark street. Like I said, if you want to prove something go to their newsgroup and post, so they can answer your accusations. You can cut the cross linking also. Tell us where you original NG is and we can cut the link for you. Raymond
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Looks like no one wants your stuff in the NG. wake up and live with it.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In one age, called the Second Age by some, (an Age yet to come, an Age long past) someone claiming to be Fred Ziffel wrote Classic repost from 2001. Not all links may be active today but the info is timeless. All links currently active for verification– 02/10/2001 Special Note February 6, 2004: An attempt was made to get new working links for links which are now dead. If anyone thinks I am making a stretch accusing Jewish teachings of being bigoted then just use this simple test: substitute Jew or Jewish with white and non-Jew with non-white. We don’t want two standards do we? <<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C.Sec. 107. – Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use [The fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. [I]n any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include – (1) whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes.. ((this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. – FAIR USE INTENDED)) And the certified Usenet Kook strikes again — never mind that this post has been refuted many times over: zie’ll just change zir nym and make you filter zie again… Personal attacks aren’t refuting meand what I posted is what anyone can find at Jewish web sites! I gave the links too so live with it! Tavish
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In one age, called the Second Age by some, (an Age yet to come, an Age long past) someone claiming to be Fred Ziffel wrote – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In one age, called the Second Age by some, (an Age yet to come, an Age long past) someone claiming to be Fred Ziffel wrote Classic repost from 2001. Not all links may be active today but the info is timeless. All links currently active for verification– 02/10/2001 Special Note February 6, 2004: An attempt was made to get new working links for links which are now dead. If anyone thinks I am making a stretch accusing Jewish teachings of being bigoted then just use this simple test: substitute Jew or Jewish with white and non-Jew with non-white. We don’t want two standards do we? <<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C.Sec. 107. – Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use [The fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. [I]n any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include – (1) whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes.. ((this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. – FAIR USE INTENDED)) And the certified Usenet Kook strikes again — never mind that this post has been refuted many times over: zie’ll just change zir nym and make you filter zie again… Personal attacks aren’t refuting meand what I posted is what anyone can find at Jewish web sites! I gave the links too so live with it!
Nor did I claim it was a refutation — merely pointing out that you ignore the refutation that *has* been offered, and insist on cross posting your rants all over Usenet and changing your nym to foil kill filters.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -In one age, called the Second Age by some, (an Age yet to come, an Age long past) someone claiming to be Fred Ziffel wrote Classic repost from 2001. Not all links may be active today but the info is timeless. All links currently active for verification– 02/10/2001 Special Note February 6, 2004: An attempt was made to get new working links for links which are now dead. If anyone thinks I am making a stretch accusing Jewish teachings of being bigoted then just use this simple test: substitute Jew or Jewish with white and non-Jew with non-white. We don’t want two standards do we? <<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C.Sec. 107. – Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use [The fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. [I]n any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include – (1) whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes.. ((this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. – FAIR USE INTENDED)) And the certified Usenet Kook strikes again — never mind that this post has been refuted many times over: zie’ll just change zir nym and make you filter zie again…
Personal attacks aren’t refuting meand what I posted is what anyone can find at Jewish web sites! I gave the links too so live with it! Tavish Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com – Accounts Starting At $6.95 – http://www.uncensored-news.com <<<<<<< The Worlds Uncensored News Source <<<<<<<<
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Get a life, grow up, no one cares what you think about Jews or your bigoted view of life.
Can’t refute my post can you? I quoted what Jewish Rabbis teach about non-Jews and you have a fit because I made the otherwise secretive bigotry against the rest of mankind known. I am not the one who needs to grow up and get a life- you are! BTW as for what you call my "bigoted view of life" why don’t you explain why what Jews teach (which I have exposed) is NOT bigoted? Is this or is this not bigotry against the rest of humanity: Bishul Akum – non-Jewish cooking: One may not eat food cooked by a non-Jew. Rabbis feared that this may precipitate an inappropriately close personal relationship between Jew and non-Jew. Pas Akum – non-Jewish bread: Similarly, Rabbis prohibited eating bread baked by a non-Jew. Stam Yoinom – non-Jewish wine: One may not drink wine of a non-Jew, even if the wine was not poured to avodah zarah. This prohibition is also based on the concern that drinking his wine may cause a personal relationship between Jew and non-Jew. <end/quote OR HOW ABOUT THIS: 13. If a non-Jew touches wine by means of something else (not a part of his body), or if it is touched through his power, a rabbi should be consulted as to the fitness of the wine. 14. When we send wine through a non-Jew, we must take the precaution of doubly sealing the mouth or the faucet of the vessel. 15. There are many diverse laws regarding the wine that a Jew makes for a non-Jew, for the purpose of selling it to Jewish consumers. In certain instances, even double seals and a lock are of no avail. It is necessary to consult an ordained rabbi as to what procedure to follow in such a case. The scrupulous should avoid the use of such wine. Tavish –Jewish Tradition will NEVER teach Non-Jews as being equals– Century Pharisees V2.1b S_0127 http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=b6beevshh8dcr43hk33rafn23fvo2… a "Brother" in Their Eyes! V2.0 R_0827 http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=ejoodv8ba5n1ja6k5f13i0bfp46nh… Lubavitch Cyberspace Website http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3eaade4a.64590087%40tavish-ce… http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3eca1e34.54088216%40tavish-ce… Pre-Earthly Existence? R_0520 Concerning non-Jews (In Their Own Words Series) V2.0 S_0114 http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=6q6a00l6th5th925jsoker2al5ukl… (Classic Repost) New Links Added! S_0114 Reside In! V3.0b S_0110 Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com – Accounts Starting At $6.95 – http://www.uncensored-news.com <<<<<<< The Worlds Uncensored News Source <<<<<<<<
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If anyone thinks I am making a stretch accusing Jewish teachings of being bigoted then just use this simple test: substitute Jew or Jewish with white and non-Jew with non-white. We don’t want two standards do we?
The stupid laws are a proof where many "religious" people waste their time thinking that their observances make them followers of God’s law while their labors are in vain. Many Christians follow the Jewish example and believe the same, missing the point just like the Jews. They "waste their times and are upset over many things while one thing is asked for." Shan
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Classic repost from 2001. Not all links may be active today but the info is timeless. All links currently active for verification– 02/10/2001 Special Note February 6, 2004: An attempt was made to get new working links for links which are now dead. If anyone thinks I am making a stretch accusing Jewish teachings of being bigoted then just use this simple test: substitute Jew or Jewish with white and non-Jew with non-white. We don’t want two standards do we?
There is no "we", Fatboy. There is you on one side and the non-malignant,non-retarded sane world on the other side. You’re so yellow the doctors probably think you have Hepatitis. http://pagebiz.com/banjo/bob/?7
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In one age, called the Second Age by some, (an Age yet to come, an Age long past) someone claiming to be Fred Ziffel wrote – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Classic repost from 2001. Not all links may be active today but the info is timeless. All links currently active for verification– 02/10/2001 Special Note February 6, 2004: An attempt was made to get new working links for links which are now dead. If anyone thinks I am making a stretch accusing Jewish teachings of being bigoted then just use this simple test: substitute Jew or Jewish with white and non-Jew with non-white. We don’t want two standards do we? <<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C.Sec. 107. – Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use [The fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. [I]n any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include – (1) whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes.. ((this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. – FAIR USE INTENDED))
And the certified Usenet Kook strikes again — never mind that this post has been refuted many times over: zie’ll just change zir nym and make you filter zie again…
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Get a life, grow up, no one cares what you think about Jews or your bigoted view of life.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Classic repost from 2001. Not all links may be active today but the info is timeless. All links currently active for verification– 02/10/2001 Special Note February 6, 2004: An attempt was made to get new working links for links which are now dead. If anyone thinks I am making a stretch accusing Jewish teachings of being bigoted then just use this simple test: substitute Jew or Jewish with white and non-Jew with non-white. We don’t want two standards do we? <<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C.Sec. 107. – Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use [The fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. [I]n any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include – (1) whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes.. ((this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. – FAIR USE INTENDED)) Excerpts: http://www.homestore.com/food_recipes/beverages/wine/kosherwine.asp (Link no longer active) "A wine that has been produced under the strictest imaginable kosher conditions can become un-kosher simply by being poured by a non-Jew." This mirrors the "spirit" of the above bigotry: http://www.ahavat-israel.com/ahavat/torat/treif.asp (Link active February 6, 2004. Archived locally as: ahavatTreif) "…Yayin Akum – wine touched by a non-Jew: Rabbis prohibited (even to derive benefit from) the wine of a Jew if it was touched and moved (or even if it may have been touched) by a non-Jew…" From the same link above (archived as: ahavatTreif) these examples of bigotry toward non-Jews also viewable: <start/quote Foods prohibited by Rabbinic law independent of any direct Biblical basis Bishul Akum – non-Jewish cooking: One may not eat food cooked by a non-Jew. Rabbis feared that this may precipitate an inappropriately close personal relationship between Jew and non-Jew. Pas Akum – non-Jewish bread: Similarly, Rabbis prohibited eating bread baked by a non-Jew. Stam Yoinom – non-Jewish wine: One may not drink wine of a non-Jew, even if the wine was not poured to avodah zarah. This prohibition is also based on the concern that drinking his wine may cause a personal relationship between Jew and non-Jew. <end/quote The above is what is taught about ALL non-Jews behind closed doors YET Gentile Christendom misleads their flocks with the false teaching a "Judeo-Christian Alliance" exists! Jews have been anti-Christ and against ALL non-Jews since the founding of Christianity (and before then as well) and they have been consistent YET adherents to Christendom are ignorant of the bigotry being taught against them! http://www.shemayisrael.com/rabbiforsythe/interpersonal/sensitive.htm (Link active February 6, 2004. Archived locally as:
shemayisrael_sensitive) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "…When you have money that you could earn interest on (e.g. lend on interest to a non-Jew or make an interest-bearing investment), and a Jew needs a loan, you are obligated to lend to the money to the Jew for no interest… [I]f your shul rents space for simchas or gatherings, can you legislate an amplification limit for those who rent your facilities; do you know any rosh yeshivos or teachers who can teach their students about how loudness is a serious danger to people and violation of many areas of Torah [e.g. damages, imitating non-Jewish culture..." Does not the above show bigotry toward non-Jews? YES or No? http://www.okkosher.com/Content.asp?ID=143 (Link active February 6, 2004. Archived locally as: okkosher143) 1. Nowadays the ordinary wine of a non-Jew, or Jewish wine that has been touched by a non-Jew, is, according to the opinion of some authorities, forbidden only for drinking purposes, but not forbidden to derive any benefit from it. Therefore, we are permitted to take non-Jewish wine in payment of a debt due us, for it is equivalent to saving it from a loss. The same law applies to a case, when we have violated the law and have purchased wine from them. But it is forbidden in the first instance to buy wine from them in order to make a profit by it. Other authorities are lenient even as regards the latter case, but it is best to follow the stricter opinion. 2. It is permissible to make a bath out of non-Jewish wine for a sick person although he is not critically ill. 3. If kosher wine that has been boiled until its quantity was reduced by evaporation, it touched by a non-Jew, it may be used even for the purpose of drinking it. Wine, into which spices have been put, as long as it still retains the name wine and has not been boiled, becomes forbidden when touched by a non-Jew. 4. Victuals mixed with wine, the presence of which is not discernable, even if the victuals have not yet been brought to a boiling point, do not become unfit for use if they have been touched by a non-Jew. 5. If wine is adulterated with six parts of water, the wine becomes nullified and does not become forbidden by the touch of a non-Jew. However, raisin wine, that is, when water is poured upon the raisins, is considered as true wine. 6. If water is poured upon the kernels of pressed grapes, or upon the lees of wine, as long as it is improved for the purpose of drinking by doing so, it becomes forbidden when touched by a non-Jew. 7. If some wine has been extracted from the grapes pressed in a tank, be it even only a small quantity, or if some wine has been taken out of it into a vessel, the entire contents of the tank is legally called wine, and it becomes forbidden by the touch of a non-Jew even if only the kernels or the husks have been touched. It is, therefore, forbidden to make use of the tanks of grapes found in the house of a non-Jew, for it is likely that the non-Jew has already extracted some wine from it. It is forbidden to let a non-Jew press grapes in a tank, even if such a tank is provided with a stopper. 8. We must also be careful not to let a non-Jew remove the kernels and the husks from the wine-press, even after we have already extracted the first and second wine from it, as they might still be moist with wine. 9. If a non-Jew has poured water into wine with the intention of diluting it, we are not allowed to drink from it. But if he had not intended to dilute it, or even it if is only doubtful whether he has intended to do so, its use is permissible. 10. If vinegar is made out of kosher wine, and it is so strong that it seethes when poured upon the ground, it no longer becomes forbidden by the touch of a non-Jew. But if vinegar is made out of non-Jewish wine, it always remains forbidden. 11. Brandy that is made out of non-Jewish wine, or of kernels and husks or of lees, is considered like the wine itself. But brandy made out of kosher wine, is no longer rendered unfit for use by the touch of a non-Jew. 12. It has become a prevailing custom to permit the use of Tartaric acid, since it is not tasteful. 13. If a non-Jew touches wine by means of something else (not a part of his body), or if it is touched through his power, a rabbi should be consulted as to the fitness of the wine. 14. When we send wine through a non-Jew, we must take the precaution of doubly sealing the mouth or the faucet of the vessel. 15. There are many diverse laws regarding the wine that a Jew makes for a non-Jew, for the purpose of selling it to Jewish consumers. In certain instances, even double seals and a lock are of no avail. It is necessary to consult an ordained rabbi as to what procedure to follow in such a case. The scrupulous should avoid the use of such wine. 16. Regarding the vessels that have contained non-Jewish wine, if they are of the kind that one ordinarily used for keeping wine, but temporarily, nor have they contained the wine for twenty-four hours, whether the vessels are of leather skins, wood, glass, stone, or metal, as long as they are not lined with pitch, they should be rinsed well with water three times, and then they may be used.... <END Do you adherents of Christendom still think the "Observant Jew" views you as his equal "spiritual brother" as the false teaching of a "Judeo-Christian Alliance" tries to perpetuate? All of the examples I give in this current posting are current teachings being taught by rabbis in each and every synagogue and they reflect the same animosity toward all non-Jews their forefathers the Pharisees had! I.E Here is the Apostle Peter speaking: Acts 10:28 :: New International Version (NIV) He said to them: "You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to associate with a Gentile or visit him. But God has shown me that I should not call any man impure or unclean. Acts 10:28 :: King James Version (KJV) And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean. Acts 10:28 :: New Living Translation (NLT) Peter told them, "You know it is against the Jewish laws for me to come into a Gentile home like this. But God has shown me that I should never think of anyone as impure.
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Classic repost from 2001. Not all links may be active today but the info is timeless. All links currently active for verification-- 02/10/2001 Special Note February 6, 2004: An attempt was made to get new working links for links which are now dead. If anyone thinks I am making a stretch accusing Jewish teachings of being bigoted then just use this simple test: substitute Jew or Jewish with white and non-Jew with non-white. We don't want two standards do we? <<<In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C.Sec. 107. - Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use [The fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. [I]n any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include – (1) whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes.. ((this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. – FAIR USE INTENDED)) Excerpts: http://www.homestore.com/food_recipes/beverages/wine/kosherwine.asp (Link no longer active) "A wine that has been produced under the strictest imaginable kosher conditions can become un-kosher simply by being poured by a non-Jew." This mirrors the "spirit" of the above bigotry: http://www.ahavat-israel.com/ahavat/torat/treif.asp (Link active February 6, 2004. Archived locally as: ahavatTreif) "…Yayin Akum – wine touched by a non-Jew: Rabbis prohibited (even to derive benefit from) the wine of a Jew if it was touched and moved (or even if it may have been touched) by a non-Jew…" From the same link above (archived as: ahavatTreif) these examples of bigotry toward non-Jews also viewable: <start/quote Foods prohibited by Rabbinic law independent of any direct Biblical basis Bishul Akum – non-Jewish cooking: One may not eat food cooked by a non-Jew. Rabbis feared that this may precipitate an inappropriately close personal relationship between Jew and non-Jew. Pas Akum – non-Jewish bread: Similarly, Rabbis prohibited eating bread baked by a non-Jew. Stam Yoinom – non-Jewish wine: One may not drink wine of a non-Jew, even if the wine was not poured to avodah zarah. This prohibition is also based on the concern that drinking his wine may cause a personal relationship between Jew and non-Jew. <end/quote The above is what is taught about ALL non-Jews behind closed doors YET Gentile Christendom misleads their flocks with the false teaching a "Judeo-Christian Alliance" exists! Jews have been anti-Christ and against ALL non-Jews since the founding of Christianity (and before then as well) and they have been consistent YET adherents to Christendom are ignorant of the bigotry being taught against them! http://www.shemayisrael.com/rabbiforsythe/interpersonal/sensitive.htm (Link active February 6, 2004. Archived locally as: shemayisrael_sensitive) "…When you have money that you could earn interest on (e.g. lend on interest to a non-Jew or make an interest-bearing investment), and a Jew needs a loan, you are obligated to lend to the money to the Jew for no interest… [I]f your shul rents space for simchas or gatherings, can you legislate an amplification limit for those who rent your facilities; do you know any rosh yeshivos or teachers who can teach their students about how loudness is a serious danger to people and violation of many areas of Torah [e.g. damages, imitating non-Jewish culture..." Does not the above show bigotry toward non-Jews? YES or No? http://www.okkosher.com/Content.asp?ID=143 (Link active February 6, 2004. Archived locally as: okkosher143) 1. Nowadays the ordinary wine of a non-Jew, or Jewish wine that has been touched by a non-Jew, is, according to the opinion of some authorities, forbidden only for drinking purposes, but not forbidden to derive any benefit from it. Therefore, we are permitted to take non-Jewish wine in payment of a debt due us, for it is equivalent to saving it from a loss. The same law applies to a case, when we have violated the law and have purchased wine from them. But it is forbidden in the first instance to buy wine from them in order to make a profit by it. Other authorities are lenient even as regards the latter case, but it is best to follow the stricter opinion. 2. It is permissible to make a bath out of non-Jewish wine for a sick person although he is not critically ill. 3. If kosher wine that has been boiled until its quantity was reduced by evaporation, it touched by a non-Jew, it may be used even for the purpose of drinking it. Wine, into which spices have been put, as long as it still retains the name wine and has not been boiled, becomes forbidden when touched by a non-Jew. 4. Victuals mixed with wine, the presence of which is not discernable, even if the victuals have not yet been brought to a boiling point, do not become unfit for use if they have been touched by a non-Jew. 5. If wine is adulterated with six parts of water, the wine becomes nullified and does not become forbidden by the touch of a non-Jew. However, raisin wine, that is, when water is poured upon the raisins, is considered as true wine. 6. If water is poured upon the kernels of pressed grapes, or upon the lees of wine, as long as it is improved for the purpose of drinking by doing so, it becomes forbidden when touched by a non-Jew. 7. If some wine has been extracted from the grapes pressed in a tank, be it even only a small quantity, or if some wine has been taken out of it into a vessel, the entire contents of the tank is legally called wine, and it becomes forbidden by the touch of a non-Jew even if only the kernels or the husks have been touched. It is, therefore, forbidden to make use of the tanks of grapes found in the house of a non-Jew, for it is likely that the non-Jew has already extracted some wine from it. It is forbidden to let a non-Jew press grapes in a tank, even if such a tank is provided with a stopper. 8. We must also be careful not to let a non-Jew remove the kernels and the husks from the wine-press, even after we have already extracted the first and second wine from it, as they might still be moist with wine. 9. If a non-Jew has poured water into wine with the intention of diluting it, we are not allowed to drink from it. But if he had not intended to dilute it, or even it if is only doubtful whether he has intended to do so, its use is permissible. 10. If vinegar is made out of kosher wine, and it is so strong that it seethes when poured upon the ground, it no longer becomes forbidden by the touch of a non-Jew. But if vinegar is made out of non-Jewish wine, it always remains forbidden. 11. Brandy that is made out of non-Jewish wine, or of kernels and husks or of lees, is considered like the wine itself. But brandy made out of kosher wine, is no longer rendered unfit for use by the touch of a non-Jew. 12. It has become a prevailing custom to permit the use of Tartaric acid, since it is not tasteful. 13. If a non-Jew touches wine by means of something else (not a part of his body), or if it is touched through his power, a rabbi should be consulted as to the fitness of the wine. 14. When we send wine through a non-Jew, we must take the precaution of doubly sealing the mouth or the faucet of the vessel. 15. There are many diverse laws regarding the wine that a Jew makes for a non-Jew, for the purpose of selling it to Jewish consumers. In certain instances, even double seals and a lock are of no avail. It is necessary to consult an ordained rabbi as to what procedure to follow in such a case. The scrupulous should avoid the use of such wine. 16. Regarding the vessels that have contained non-Jewish wine, if they are of the kind that one ordinarily used for keeping wine, but temporarily, nor have they contained the wine for twenty-four hours, whether the vessels are of leather skins, wood, glass, stone, or metal, as long as they are not lined with pitch, they should be rinsed well with water three times, and then they may be used.... <END Do you adherents of Christendom still think the "Observant Jew" views you as his equal "spiritual brother" as the false teaching of a "Judeo-Christian Alliance" tries to perpetuate? All of the examples I give in this current posting are current teachings being taught by rabbis in each and every synagogue and they reflect the same animosity toward all non-Jews their forefathers the Pharisees had! I.E Here is the Apostle Peter speaking: Acts 10:28 :: New International Version (NIV) He said to them: "You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to associate with a Gentile or visit him. But God has shown me that I should not call any man impure or unclean. Acts 10:28 :: King James Version (KJV) And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean. Acts 10:28 :: New Living Translation (NLT) Peter told them, "You know it is against the Jewish laws for me to come into a Gentile home like this. But God has shown me that I should never think of anyone as impure. ["Observant" Jews who practice anti-Christ and anti-Gentile Judaism think the same way today as their spiritual forefathers did 2000 some odd years ago and more!! Tavish comment] Look at what the Samaritan woman told Jesus at the well: John 4:9 :: New Living Translation (NLT) The woman was surprised, for Jews refuse to have anything to do with Samaritans. She said to Jesus, "You are a Jew, and I am a Samaritan woman. Why are you asking me for a drink?" John 4:9 :: New International Version (NIV) The Samaritan woman said to him, … read more »
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