Jim McGreevey – Another GAY Democratic Governor bites the dust

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Looks like the gay and non-Christain (sic) Governor, Jim McGreevey likes the "twink meat". How come Republican Governors like Arnold are accused of groping women and Democrat Governors prefer to "slurp" on "twink meat" and hate Christains (sic)? Tell us, Augustine "Twink Meat" Aubrey.

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 Looks like the gay and non-Christain (sic) Governor, Jim McGreevey  likes the "twink meat". It’s OK, Little Stevie.  You can keep enjoying the taste of your ‘twink meat’.  Just don’t swallow the gravy, it can give you Hepatitis-C. Oh, you already knew that?  Sorry….  : ) Next time rub it on the bald spot, you never know!!!!!

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Boehner blocks Pelosi’s investigation resolution: Surprise! Now there’s a boner! Republican Party Chairman Sam Walls, who is married, was urged to drop his candidacy for Congress when it was found he likes to dress up -n women’s clothing. http://www.armchairsubversive.com/sam_walls7.jpg well, ok. I’ve been on record as saying that men in skirts are sexy but this isn’t what I had in mind. I was thinking something more along these lines –  http://www.utilikilts.com/ get yours here  http://www.armchairsubversive.com/sam_walls7.jpg

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Next time rub it on the bald spot, you never know!!!!!

It worked for you Howie… right..?? Ciao’

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" Next time rub it on the bald spot, you never know!!!!!  It worked for you Howie… right..??"  :-)  Ciao’ Nah, Genie, no hair issues here.  How about yourself? I notice you like wearing a hat.  *Indoors*!  Now ‘there’s’ a dead give away! Not to mention rude! So tell us, is it true that male patern baldness comes from the maternal grandfather? Don’t be shy, inquiring minds want to know! cheers…

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BREAKING: Sherwood (R-PA:10) Settles Choking Suit After proclaiming his innocence and trying to delay his trial until after the election, mistress-choker Don Sherwood (R-PA) has settled his lawsuit.  In a secret deal, Sherwood bought Cynthia Ore’s silence. According to the agreement, neither side will address this issue publicly. Secret settlements are basically an admission of guilt. Even a former Bush and Santorum staffer agrees: Also it seems Sherwood will not settle this lawsuit. If he settles you know he is guilty if he goes to court who knows the truth really no matter which way the verdict goes. Finally Ore does not want to Settle. Her Family is loaded. Congressman Sherwood has no intention of leveling with voters about his behavior (and he never did!). Somehow, the records on the night of the abuse have disappeared and Sherwood is not going to face criminal prosecution.  Now, Sherwood has paid for his mistress’ silence.  The only way this abuser will be held responsible for his actions is at the ballot box. Sherwood’s behavior and his voting record have put one of the reddest districts in the country in play.  For the first time since Sherwood gerrymandered his district to give himself a permanent seat in Congress, he faces a real challenger.  Chris Carney, a professor of International Affairs at Penn-State and a Lt. Commander in the Naval Reserves has stepped up to challenge the mistress-choker. The differences are crystal clear. Sherwood cheats on his wife and beats his mistress. Chris is a devoted husband and father of 5. Don Sherwood is a car salesman turned career politician. Chris has never run for political office. Since September 11th, Sherwood has traveled to DC to have an affair and to vote to put Congress in the middle of the Terri Schiavo case. Since September 11th, Chris has traveled from the 10th district to serve his country at the Pentagon, in Korea, and in Saudi Arabia. Sherwood has a vast personal fortune to pay off his mistress and to blow on his campaign against Chris. Chris is running a grassroots campaign and is reliant on small contributors to take on Don Sherwood. The Carney for Congress campaign needs all the help it can get in very conservative district.  Democrats have a chance not only to strike into the heart of Republican territory, we also have the chance to knock a despicable excuse for a human being out of Congress. The case against Sherwood was for $5.5 million. https://secure.democracyinaction.com/dia/organizations/carney06/shop/… http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cliff-schecter/republican-sexcapades-me… This is, very simply, emblematic of the current state of the GOP, a once proud party of Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt that has devolved into an elected membership comprised of racists, criminals, self-haters and perverts. Am I exaggerating? I think not. I’ll leave the Neo-Confederates such as George Allen and the Abramoffers such as Bob Ney for another column. Let’s just talk about the latter two categories. Former Representative Ed Schrock of Virginia, who sponsored anti-gay legislation in the House, was caught in 2004 making calls to a homosexual phone-sex operation. http://rawstory.com/exclusives/byrne/schrock_resigns_gay_phone_sex_ta… He then resigned without comment much like Foley. Hate yourself much Ed? See Mayor Jim West of Spokane for a very similar story http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/223201_west06.html to the one currently bedeviling poor Mark Foley, who was still Chairing the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited children as of last week. You want to find adultery among these miscreant moralizers? Why go no further then Pennsylvania Representative Don Sherwood, who thought it wasn’t good enough to just cheat on his wife with a women in her 20s (he’s in his 60s), but decided to try and choke her for extra credit. Or Representative Steve LaTourette of Ohio, who didn’t only cheat on his wife of 28 years with an aide, but set her up with a nice little shop that lobbied a committee on which he sat (Transportation). The piles of money she made was helpful though, as it most likely helped pay his rent as she was living with him. http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2004/10/05/lobbyist/index.html Divorce you say. Ok, well here’s a math problem for you. What do you get when you add the divorces of Newt Gingrich + Rush Limbaugh + Bob Barr? A hint, you’re almost in double digits. This is today’s GOP. The family values crowd in all their glory. It is the reason I started doing a weekly segment on The Young Turks called "Republican Sexcapades" (you may be familiar with the insightful analysis of Cenk Uygur, one of The Young Turks’ hosts, on this very site). Because somebody had to point out their sexual hypocrisy on a weekly basis.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – BREAKING: Sherwood (R-PA:10) Settles Choking Suit After proclaiming his innocence and trying to delay his trial until after the election, mistress-choker Don Sherwood (R-PA) A bit early with the ‘convictions’ there, aren’t you? has settled his lawsuit.  In a secret deal, Sherwood bought Cynthia Ore’s silence. According to the agreement, neither side will address this issue publicly. Secret settlements are basically an admission of guilt. Really? Gee, that’s not what I heard when Clinton settled with Paula Jones to make her lawsuit go away.  <snip

Flip honey, I do not want to hear about Clinton any more. He is not the current President, his party isn’t in power now and I didn’t vote for him anyway. What we are talking about is who is in power now and how they claim to be a party of family values when thay are just a bunch of self serving, lying, hypcritical bastards plus a pervert or two or three. Frankly, thogh if I HAD a choice in the matter I’d rather hang out with a party of men who hit on women of age, than a party of men who hit women and hit on under age boys.

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Flip honey, I do not want to hear about Clinton any more. He is not the current President,

He’s the most current Dem president. And you’re a hypocrite because whackos like you use Clinton all the time – when you think it’s to your advantage. Why is it Dems are so ashamed of Clinton? Repubs talk with pride about Reagan all the time. It’s kinda  fucked there hasn’t been a decent Dem pres in over 50 years, but oh well, that’s your problem. Frankly, thogh if I HAD a choice in the matter I’d rather hang out with a party of men who hit on women of age, than a party of men who hit women and hit on under age boys.

This is the dumbest statement I’ve ever read here. You truly are a dizzy dingbat.

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Flip honey, I do not want to hear about Clinton any more. He is not the current President,

 He’s the most current Dem president. Sure you don’t mean ‘recent’? Put the Doritos down while you type.. : )  And you’re a hypocrite because whackos like you use Clinton all the time – when you think it’s to  your advantage. Why is it Dems are so ashamed of Clinton? I’m not ashamed.  He likes women!  Repubs talk  with pride about Reagan all the time. How about Nixon? It’s kinda  fucked there hasn’t  been a decent Dem pres in over 50 years, but oh well, that’s your  problem. Yawn.. Frankly, thogh if I HAD a choice in the matter I’d rather hang out with a party of men who hit on women of age, than a party of men who hit women and hit on under age boys. This is the dumbest statement I’ve ever read here.

Because you like little boys?  Wife beating?

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Frankly, thogh if I HAD a choice in the matter I’d rather hang out with a party of men who hit on women of age, than a party of men who hit women and hit on under age boys. This is the dumbest statement I’ve ever read here. Because you like little boys?  Wife beating?

Apparently.  Because given the choice between one or the other, that’s what he chose.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Flip honey, I do not want to hear about Clinton any more. He is not the current President, He’s the most current Dem president. Sure you don’t mean ‘recent’? Put the Doritos down while you type.. : )

Actually he is the most current Dem president. There is no current dem president. And you’re a hypocrite because whackos like you use Clinton all the time – when you think it’s to your advantage. Why is it Dems are so ashamed of Clinton? I’m not ashamed.  He likes women!

LOL! Clinton’s legacy of failure and this is the best you can come up with. Repubs talk with pride about Reagan all the time. How about Nixon?

How about Nixon? He liked women. That means he’s a great president to you. LOL. Beaten at his own adolescent game! It’s kinda  fucked there hasn’t been a decent Dem pres in over 50 years, but oh well, that’s your problem. Yawn..

Cheer up, I heard Carter ‘liked’ women. LOL Frankly, thogh if I HAD a choice in the matter I’d rather hang out with a party of men who hit on women of age, than a party of men who hit women and hit on under age boys. This is the dumbest statement I’ve ever read here. Because you like little boys?  Wife beating?

Because you’re a complete idiot to think America would put the face of a child molester, Lincoln, on Mt. Rushmore. You’re equally as adolescent as Dingbat Mary. ps I felt sorry for you so I came up with a more pussified name than yours to make you feel manly.  :)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Frankly, thogh if I HAD a choice in the matter I’d rather hang out with a party of men who hit on women of age, than a party of men who hit women and hit on under age boys. This is the dumbest statement I’ve ever read here. Because you like little boys?  Wife beating? Apparently.  Because given the choice between one or the other, that’s what he chose.

Dingbat Mary wins another award. The whacked out whacko thinks everyone is either gay/lesbian or a child molester. Geez, makes you wonder what her life has been like….lol…actually no, that’s sad. Why don’t you post another meaningless 500 line cut and paste job from some encyclopedia no one will read so you think you will have outsmarted someone….

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know what Mr. Giggle News? Nothing you say has any effect on me. You don’t even exist.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Flip honey, I do not want to hear about Clinton any more. He is not the current President, He’s the most current Dem president. Sure you don’t mean ‘recent’? Put the Doritos down while you type.. : ) Actually he is the most current Dem president. There is no current dem president.

He isn’t???  My gawd, I think I found an internet genius!! And you’re a hypocrite because whackos like you use Clinton all the time – when you think it’s to your advantage. Why is it Dems are so ashamed of Clinton? I’m not ashamed.  He likes women! LOL! Clinton’s legacy of failure and this is the best you can come up with.

Failure?  Are you sure your not talking about your marriage? : ) Repubs talk with pride about Reagan all the time. How about Nixon? How about Nixon? He liked women. That means he’s a great president to you. LOL. Beaten at his own adolescent game!

You, poor, illiterate shell of a boy.  I didn’t say Clinton was a ‘great’ president, I said I wasn’t ‘ashamed’ of him.  You’re harboring quite a bit of shame, aren’t you? It’s kinda  fucked there hasn’t been a decent Dem pres in over 50 years, but oh well, that’s your problem. Yawn.. Cheer up, I heard Carter ‘liked’ women. LOL

He ‘lusted’ for them, he admits. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Frankly, thogh if I HAD a choice in the matter I’d rather hang out with a party of men who hit on women of age, than a party of men who hit women and hit on under age boys. This is the dumbest statement I’ve ever read here. Because you like little boys?  Wife beating? Because you’re a complete idiot to think America would put the face of a child molester, Lincoln, on Mt. Rushmore. You’re equally as adolescent as Dingbat Mary. ps I felt sorry for you so I came up with a more pussified name than yours to make you feel manly.  :)

Having a full head of hair, being able to eat wheat, and not having been given a sexually transmitted disease by a cheating wife makes me feel just fine, and you??  : ) Do you even have an idea who the guy was that contributed the disease to you? Does SHE?? cheers…

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I think we got to him. He’s coming apart at the seams. "if someone is coming apart at the seams, they are feeling extremely upset " Dee Irwin composition, this guy certainly new how to write a soul song. The much under-rated vocal prowess of Andy Butler steadily builds the atmosphere to a crescendo of emotion. A slower starter but grabs you by the end, & insists on a respin.. http://…/esmil.php?catno=47995&artist=BUTLER__ANDY&title=COMING_APA…"compact"

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – BREAKING: Sherwood (R-PA:10) Settles Choking Suit After proclaiming his innocence and trying to delay his trial until after the election, mistress-choker Don Sherwood (R-PA) A bit early with the ‘convictions’ there, aren’t you? has settled his lawsuit.  In a secret deal, Sherwood bought Cynthia Ore’s silence. According to the agreement, neither side will address this issue publicly. Secret settlements are basically an admission of guilt. Really? Gee, that’s not what I heard when Clinton settled with Paula Jones to make her lawsuit go away.  <snip Flip honey, I do not want to hear about Clinton any more. He is not the current President, his party isn’t in power now and I didn’t vote for him anyway. What we are talking about is who is in power now and how they claim to be a party of family values when thay are just a bunch of self serving, lying, hypcritical bastards plus a pervert or two or three. My, dear, the hypocrisy is yours for taking a position in one case that’s the exact opposite of the other. Frankly, thogh if I HAD a choice in the matter I’d rather hang out with a party of men who hit on women of age, than a party of men who hit women and hit on under age boys. Frankly, I’d rather have neither.

So, is the remaining choice that you prefer to hang out with men who hit on men of age? Well, if that’s your style, make sure it’s none of our business by not trying to broadcast it all over the place, ok? Some folks have weak stomachs.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Frankly, I’d rather have neither. understood, however "currently" we are presented with these two choices. It’s as if there’s some kind of secret Republican Inappropriate Appointment Committee. Let’s put the closeted cruiser in charge of gay bashing! Head of the sex offender watchdog committee is a borderline sex offender? Check. Or make that, write him a check! http://blogs.nydailynews.com/dailypolitics/archives/2006/09/reynolds_… Today’s Republicans don’t believe in accountability. Foxes in the henhouse is the rule, rather than the exception. Five-and-a-half years, and they’re drunk with power. It’s a tragic corruption of the party’s cause. And they have no one to blame but themselves. They run all the branches, a majority of the governorships, and have the mouthpieces of talk radio and the biggest cable news outfit to distribute their talking points. Not to mention an enfeebled and confused Democratic party to dominate. When it rains in politics, it pours, and the Foley scandal is spilling quickly over onto the House Republican Leadership — particularly Tom Reynolds, the Erie County-based chairman of the National Republican Campaign Committee who faces his own, serious, challenge from a protectionist maverick Democrat, Jack Davis. Reynolds is now in something approaching open war with the Speaker of the House amid recriminations over who know what when. (Josh Marshall has running, detailed, partisan-but-fair coverage.) In that context, a reader emails a piece of information that strikes me as very bad news for Reynolds: He may have given Foley money after he was told of the allegations. Reynolds’s personal PAC, TOMPAC, wrote Foley a check for $5,000 on May 10, 2006. (You can see the filing here.) http://blogs.nydailynews.com/dailypolitics/archives/documents/reynold… According to the AP, Reynolds was told of the allegations against Foley "sometime this spring." I put in a request to NRCC spokesman Carl Forti for a more precise date. accepted an unusually large contribution of $100,000 from Foley. Hard to imagine something of that size just slipping past the chairman. May. http://blogs.nydailynews.com/dailypolitics/archives/2006/10/reynolds_… http://www.rollcall.com/issues/1_1/breakingnews/15260-1.html

Notice too that our military is on the verge of protesting the illegal occupation of Iraq and about to mutiny. I personally hope they give Duhbya a war crimes tribunal along with the former Tricky Dicky nutjob warmongering war profiteers and war criminals. Exit…Earth. BAM! Geenie "the hole" Nobrainski should pray they don’t lynch him while they’re at it. ha ha hah ahhhhhaaaaa

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Creepy. If you spot one, give him technical advice sure to fry him before the law has to bother at public expense. It’ll do the sick bastard a favor and save children, families and the rest of us from having to stomach their illness. Same goes for gun-toting school and workplace invading maniacs.

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Humor

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Gordo wrote: > In the ASH-C tradition of orifice humor, I present this clip from Sarah > Silverman [...]

More than funny, she’s really sexy, isn’t she? Uh… Ooops…well, maybe not to you Anyway the follwing is from an interview to her by Sports Hollywood: <quote> SportsHollywood: Which do you consider yourself first: Actress, comedienne, writer, basketball player, or Hollywood Square? SILVERMAN: Fart Machine. </quote> uhahahah, great girl. Cheers, jeeb.

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I sent it to my work address since I can’t view it on this webtv thingamajig.  Orifice humor, eh?   elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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SportsHollywood: Which do you consider yourself first: Actress, comedienne, writer, basketball player, or Hollywood Square? SILVERMAN: Fart Machine. </quote> uhahahah, great girl. Cheers, jeeb. //////////// My soul mate!  How do I contact her? elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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In article <1135863272.333291.189…@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,  "ghibelno" <ghibe…@yahoo.it> wrote: > Gordo wrote: > > In the ASH-C tradition of orifice humor, I present this clip from Sarah > > Silverman [...] > More than funny, she’s really sexy, isn’t she? > Uh… Ooops…well, maybe not to you

I can appreciate sexy. This combo works for me: http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2005_Sarah_Silverman:_Jesus_Is_Magic/… _sarah_silverman_jesus_is_magic_premiere_019.jpg as does this: http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2005_Sarah_Silverman:_Jesus_Is_Magic/… _sarah_silverman_jesus_is_magic_premiere_020.jpg G

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In article <14405-43B3EFB5…@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net>,  elmoemer…@webtv.net wrote: > SportsHollywood: Which do you consider yourself first: Actress, > comedienne, writer, basketball player, or Hollywood Square? > SILVERMAN: Fart Machine. > </quote> > uhahahah, great girl. > Cheers, > jeeb. > //////////// > My soul mate!  How do I contact her?

She’s got a boyfriend, I’m pretty sure.

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Re: Humor   Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 4:00pm (CST+6) From: ga_mondra…@yahoo.com (Gordo

2 time loser

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On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:04:56 -0500, Stretch <lonep…@mail.com>, in message ID <11pojh9e8u60…@corp.supernews.com>, in the newsgroup – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote: >elmoemer…@webtv.net wrote: >> Don’t give up the ship, Maria!  I was a two time loser also but made it >> to the other side on round 3.   >> elmo >> http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile >> http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum >Hey Elmo, I’ve not heard the details of your story. >Is it on your web site or could you share it again? >Thanks.

Try this link and just read the bottom paragraph for a sample.  I guess Elmo was pretty desperate to slay the dragon  :-) http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.support.hepatitis-c/msg/3f3545b9… — Paul Use the reply by email facility in your newsreader to send email

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In article <9YDmf.29490$7h7.1…@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,  "Maria" <pohp…@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > ive been through 13 weeks of pegagsys rebetol and another 18 weeks of > peg-intron reb. but no response, im at my all time low

Maria – How’s your liver?  There are other people here in the same situation as yours…. G

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hello group i haven’t been here in a long time, my comp. was broken…i went through 13 weeks of Pegasys and Riba. non- response and then a yr after that i was on Peg-intron and rebetol…non-responder.  i just don’t understand why why why i can’t get a responce.  i am so sick and tired of being sick and tired, i’m so damned TIRED all the time. sometimes i feel like giving up and checking out of this miserable body, but i can’t go there, my grandson is very important to me.  what really burns me up is i have a friend that started same time as me and she smokes like a train drinks like a farkin fish and snorts cocaine…no sign of the virus and she’s like me type 1a.  i quit all my vices 4 yrs ago and i don’t miss any of them, i have taken very good care of myself and still no response to tx.  she has no sides and mine were horrific.  i’m happy for her i really am at least one of us got results.  thanx

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Hi Maria, Eat peanut butter, it’s yummmmmm-ME Next time.  Or Olive Oil and Balsamic or bananas (yuk to me, my bad) or protein shakes strawberry flavour (lethicin) I better stop and go to bed or I will be reciting anagrams and other word and number puzzles like S ome I!ve heard of. cactus sleep on his assissi 8 -) hoppity hop to bednest, get rest -eat a peach, and one or two Turtle chocks eat meds,     Zzzzzzzzziiiing!   "Maria" <pohpohz@ .net> wrote in message news:DXqnf.33202$q%.32887@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com…   hello group i haven’t been here in a long time, my comp. was broken…i went through 13 weeks of Pegasys and Riba. non- response and then a yr after that i was on Peg-intron and rebetol…non-responder.  i just don’t understand why why why i can’t get a responce.  i am so sick and tired of being sick and tired, i’m so damned TIRED all the time. sometimes i feel like giving up and checking out of this miserable body, but i can’t go there, my grandson is very important to me.  what really burns me up is i have a friend that started same time as me and she smokes like a train drinks like a farkin fish and snorts cocaine…no sign of the virus and she’s like me type 1a.  i quit all my vices 4 yrs ago and i don’t miss any of them, i have taken very good care of myself and still no response to tx.  she has no sides and mine were horrific.  i’m happy for her i really am at least one of us got results.  thanx

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Re: 2 time loser   Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Tue, Dec 13, 2005, 6:52am (CST+6) From: cactusjamm…@hotmail.com (cactus

FDA Grants Fast Track Designation to Vertex's Investigational Oral Hepatitis C Virus Protease Inhibitor VX-950

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"Shawn" <m…@privacy.net> wrote in message

news:Za2mf.14541$H84.9135@trnddc04… > This is OT. > I’m just curious has anyone here ever tried to get one of those federal > grants to study something?? I mean like belly button lint of something > like that?? > — > Shawn

I’ve been periphally involved in educational grants and it’s something I’d rather not do.  Complicated as all get-out, and it seems like there’s a lot of hoop-jumping and politcally correct wording involved.  In case you hadn’t noticed, I don’t do politically correct very well.  Having said that, our local resource agency is offering a class in grant-writing, and…..

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This is OT.  I’m just curious has anyone here ever tried to get one of those federal grants to study something?? I mean like belly button lint of something like that?? — Shawn (use the "reply feature on your browser to send a private reply via E-Mail.) "smith21…@msn.com" <smith21…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:1134053800.984389.209150@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Just in case anyone is interested, >                   Ron

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Thanks I’m very interested       Doug "smith21…@msn.com" <smith21…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:1134053800.984389.209150@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Just in case anyone is interested, >                   Ron

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Just in case anyone is interested,                    Ron

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Note to self… Gordo is sensitive about his being gay and kjoh is sensitive about being female… "Gordo Mondragon" <ga_mondra…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:ga_mondragon-2E9D16.21291407122005@news-rdr-01-dummy.rdc-nyc.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article <ExKlf.21043$Oq3.1254@trnddc05>, > "Ray" <netne…@verizon.net> wrote: >> Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! >> In my view "reproductive choices" is murder. If it wasn’t why would they >> charge someone with two murders when someone kills a woman who is >> pregnant???? > Because they don’t in all cases?  Because there’s a distinction in many > cases between "homicide" and "feticide"?  Because people can make a > distinction between a right to not have a pregnancy interrupted by force > and preventing a woman from choosing not to be pregnant?  Because almost > all the laws that change assault on a pregnant woman into something > closer to murder have been enacted in the last couple of years as part > of a plan by the forced-incubation movement to slowly take away a > woman’s right to choose what she does with her body? > Is that what you’re referring to? > You don’t have to bother to answer, in the interests of the rest of the > newsgroup you’re going into my killfile. >> As far as gay rights, well you wouldn’t like what I’d have to say about >> that >> one so we’ll let that slide…. > Yeah, probably not.  That’s what’s so hypocritical about a lot of the > christianists – you want all the rights in the world as well as the > right to deny other citizens equal rights.  You and your kind can just > fuck off, you’re a threat to the future of this country and the rest of > the world. > G

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Your sperm is dead forever anyways.  Any offspring would not have survived, or probably been expelled from the uterus almost right away after conception.  With good chances of fallopian tube scarring. wank away horny toads, flutter your fingers chiquitas! cj  very clean pjs. …………………………… "Michael Cody" <nos…@nuncaspam.comorg> wrote in message

news:p5Ylf.129165$US.19759@news.ono.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Ray wrote: >> The last time I checked my biology books, sperm cannot grow up to a human >> being alone. > No shit. >> It’s not a "baby" until sperm and egg are united… Duh!!! > Um, by masturbating you have removed any chance of that sperm being united > to the egg so, well, you’ve killed it. > Cody >> "Waterspider" <waterspi…@moonlight.net> wrote in message >> news:11pfo66d8pnjbe3@corp.supernews.com… >>>"Ray" <netne…@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>news:ExKlf.21043$Oq3.1254@trnddc05… >>>>Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! >>>>In my view "reproductive choices" is murder. >>>So, um, I guess you never masturbate, huh? By the same logic, that’s >>>murder too. All those hopeful little potential children that Jesus >>>loves…. whoops! down the drain! >>>WS

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You had way too much lotus flower soup for brekkie, Doug cactus jammies  veggie wanking banana brain ……………………………………………………………….. "Doug" <dttr…@adelphia.net> wrote in message

news:GI-dnW_RXo3JVwreRVn-iA@adelphia.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> OK,   I’m coming out of the closet.  I’m going to say what I have to say > and then I’ll try not mention Christianity for a good long while in this > group. Then you can all put me in your killfiles.  OK…………….. I > LOVE JESUS……. > There is magic in His name > There is strength in His spirit > There is love in His heart > and there is birth in Belief………….. > Doug

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It’s Ok, you don’t have to apologize for being "female" you can’t help the way you were born! <grin> BTW, the reason I am so "predictable" is because I am normal… A Male "kjoh" <kjohyay…@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message

news:e8cacafbc899d5d0bc40d3b6d4298715@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Oh Ray.  You’re so predictable.  Yawn. > kj > a female

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The last time I checked my biology books, sperm cannot grow up to a human being alone. It’s not a "baby" until sperm and egg are united… Duh!!! "Waterspider" <waterspi…@moonlight.net> wrote in message

news:11pfo66d8pnjbe3@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Ray" <netne…@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:ExKlf.21043$Oq3.1254@trnddc05… >> Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! >> In my view "reproductive choices" is murder. > So, um, I guess you never masturbate, huh? By the same logic, that’s > murder too. All those hopeful little potential children that Jesus > loves…. whoops! down the drain! > WS

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Ray wrote: > The last time I checked my biology books, sperm cannot grow up to a human > being alone.

No shit. > It’s not a "baby" until sperm and egg are united… Duh!!!

Um, by masturbating you have removed any chance of that sperm being united to the egg so, well, you’ve killed it. Cody – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Waterspider" <waterspi…@moonlight.net> wrote in message > news:11pfo66d8pnjbe3@corp.supernews.com… >>"Ray" <netne…@verizon.net> wrote in message >>news:ExKlf.21043$Oq3.1254@trnddc05… >>>Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! >>>In my view "reproductive choices" is murder. >>So, um, I guess you never masturbate, huh? By the same logic, that’s >>murder too. All those hopeful little potential children that Jesus >>loves…. whoops! down the drain! >>WS

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http://www.serve.com/bonzai/monty/songs/EverySpermisSacred Oh goody, someone who believes that christianity is a salad bar where one gets to pick the parts they like and skip over the parts that would be inconvenient to them. "The Sin of Onan" http://www.goodmorals.org/sterile.html G In article <W0Ylf.8415$xg1.7664@trnddc03>, "Ray" <netne…@verizon.net> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The last time I checked my biology books, sperm cannot grow up to a human > being alone. > It’s not a "baby" until sperm and egg are united… Duh!!! > "Waterspider" <waterspi…@moonlight.net> wrote in message > news:11pfo66d8pnjbe3@corp.supernews.com… > > "Ray" <netne…@verizon.net> wrote in message > > news:ExKlf.21043$Oq3.1254@trnddc05… > >> Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! > >> In my view "reproductive choices" is murder. > > So, um, I guess you never masturbate, huh? By the same logic, that’s > > murder too. All those hopeful little potential children that Jesus > > loves…. whoops! down the drain! > > WS

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Waterspider wrote: > "Ray" <netne…@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:ExKlf.21043$Oq3.1254@trnddc05… >>Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! >>In my view "reproductive choices" is murder. > So, um, I guess you never masturbate, huh? By the same logic, that’s murder > too. All those hopeful little potential children that Jesus loves…. > whoops! down the drain! > WS

Not mention wet dreams. "Ever dream lucky and wake up cold in hand?" -Robert Johnson, Bluesman Cody

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Re: One more comment about Religion   Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Wed, Dec 7, 2005, 11:29pm (CST-2) From: waterspi…@moonlight.net (Waterspider) "Ray" <netne…@verizon.net> wrote in message

news:ExKlf.21043$Oq3.1254@trnddc05… Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! In my view "reproductive choices" is murder. So, um, I guess you never masturbate, huh? By the same logic, that’s murder too. All those hopeful little potential children that Jesus loves…. whoops! down the drain! WS /////////// ahahahahahahahah!!!!!! <squirt, squirt>   "OH, MY GOD!! WHAT HAVE I DONE?" http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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In article <11pfnvdosfq9…@corp.supernews.com>,  "Waterspider" <waterspi…@moonlight.net> wrote:

[...] > I see the point you’re trying to make, Brian, but this is the wrong arena. > These examples merely show that (successful) business markets its products > to the demographic most likely to spend its money on those products. I > despise prejudice of any kind, but I believe that someone with a product to > sell should be able to sell it to any group that he wants to sell it to.

That true.  Ford can do what they want.  But when they cancel a *successful* advertising plan based on pressure from a right-wing hate organization then it’s time to make that known to the general public and let them appropriately reap all the bad press.  Would they consider not having black people in their ads or giving corporate donations to charities that primarily help blacks because of pressure from the KKK?   Would you do business with them if they did? That’s what this is about. G

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No, it usually takes a stepstool and paper towel to clean off the ceiling. Then in the trash with ‘em…. — Shawn (use the "reply feature on your browser to send a private reply via E-Mail.) "Waterspider" <waterspi…@moonlight.net> wrote in message

news:11pfo66d8pnjbe3@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Ray" <netne…@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:ExKlf.21043$Oq3.1254@trnddc05… >> Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! >> In my view "reproductive choices" is murder. > So, um, I guess you never masturbate, huh? By the same logic, that’s > murder too. All those hopeful little potential children that Jesus > loves…. whoops! down the drain! > WS

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"Doug" <dttr…@adelphia.net> wrote in message

news:GI-dnW_RXo3JVwreRVn-iA@adelphia.com… > OK,   I’m coming out of the closet.  I’m going to say what I have to say > and then I’ll try not mention Christianity for a good long while in this > group. Then you can all put me in your killfiles.  OK…………….. I > LOVE JESUS……. > There is magic in His name > There is strength in His spirit > There is love in His heart > and there is birth in Belief………….. > Doug

The orchestra swells, a blinding light bursts from above the curtain of the stage, Doug is bathed in this beautiful light, the beatific smile on his face, his closed eyes and peaceful expression tell the tale of great faith, pure joy, an undying belief, a true oneness with the lord god almighty, his saviour and his master…. and then…. A whole herd of those little guys in white suits come running from Stage Left to haul Doug off to Happy Acres. Whoopee! With respect, Waterspider

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"Doug" <dttr…@adelphia.net> wrote in message

news:uYydneFsUPssKQreRVn-jg@adelphia.com… > C’mon Gordo, be nice… Ray’s ok…    Just stop coming back for more.  I > think somebody just trolled you two guys.  Someone asked Ray, and he > answered.  Besides these are issues not individuals that’s why you > shouldn’t get so hot….  Doug

Doug, if people don’t address these "issues" as individuals, then the issues become non-issues and the next thing you know they’re an acceptable part of society, then they become legislated, then we’re back to making birth control illegal and bashing gays. Oh, sorry, I forgot. Some of us are still doing that. Yeah. Get hot. It *is* important. WS

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"Ray" <netne…@verizon.net> wrote in message

news:ExKlf.21043$Oq3.1254@trnddc05… > Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! > In my view "reproductive choices" is murder.

So, um, I guess you never masturbate, huh? By the same logic, that’s murder too. All those hopeful little potential children that Jesus loves…. whoops! down the drain! WS

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"Ray" <netne…@verizon.net> wrote in message

news:OqHlf.15391$SY.5609@trnddc06… > Brian, I don’t even know what the "AFA" is

The American Family Association, a "faith-based" organization. Need I say more? WS

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"Brian" <m…@me.com> wrote … > Paul2,Ray and the others that can’t understand why the sane > minority(according to you) find Christian’s offensive when they start > their preaching and sharing their religious beliefs.These links are just > an example of the Hate and Intolerance that the AFA(members of the > supposed 95%)seem to adore and expect the rest of us to do the same.None > you guys subscribe to these beliefs do you? > http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051206/AUTO01/512… > http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/content/11339228521888524809/index.php

I see the point you’re trying to make, Brian, but this is the wrong arena. These examples merely show that (successful) business markets its products to the demographic most likely to spend its money on those products. I despise prejudice of any kind, but I believe that someone with a product to sell should be able to sell it to any group that he wants to sell it to. That’s why this is a "free" country <repressed chuckle>. Waterspider

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I’m mostly ok with your posts, Doug, but you got this one wrong.  What you speak of most definitely ARE individiuals, rather than issues.  Perhaps your somewhat distant perspective springs form the fact that you are neither female nor gay? With respect, Kathy

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OK,   I’m coming out of the closet.  I’m going to say what I have to say and then I’ll try not mention Christianity for a good long while in this group. Then you can all put me in your killfiles.  OK…………….. I LOVE JESUS……. There is magic in His name There is strength in His spirit There is love in His heart and there is birth in Belief………….. Doug

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C’mon Gordo, be nice… Ray’s ok…    Just stop coming back for more.  I think somebody just trolled you two guys.  Someone asked Ray, and he answered.  Besides these are issues not individuals that’s why you shouldn’t get so hot….  Doug "Gordo Mondragon" <ga_mondra…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:ga_mondragon-2E9D16.21291407122005@news-rdr-01-dummy.rdc-nyc.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article <ExKlf.21043$Oq3.1254@trnddc05>, > "Ray" <netne…@verizon.net> wrote: >> Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! >> In my view "reproductive choices" is murder. If it wasn’t why would they >> charge someone with two murders when someone kills a woman who is >> pregnant???? > Because they don’t in all cases?  Because there’s a distinction in many > cases between "homicide" and "feticide"?  Because people can make a > distinction between a right to not have a pregnancy interrupted by force > and preventing a woman from choosing not to be pregnant?  Because almost > all the laws that change assault on a pregnant woman into something > closer to murder have been enacted in the last couple of years as part > of a plan by the forced-incubation movement to slowly take away a > woman’s right to choose what she does with her body? > Is that what you’re referring to? > You don’t have to bother to answer, in the interests of the rest of the > newsgroup you’re going into my killfile. >> As far as gay rights, well you wouldn’t like what I’d have to say about >> that >> one so we’ll let that slide…. > Yeah, probably not.  That’s what’s so hypocritical about a lot of the > christianists – you want all the rights in the world as well as the > right to deny other citizens equal rights.  You and your kind can just > fuck off, you’re a threat to the future of this country and the rest of > the world. > G

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In article <ExKlf.21043$Oq3.1254@trnddc05>,  "Ray" <netne…@verizon.net> wrote: > Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! > In my view "reproductive choices" is murder. If it wasn’t why would they > charge someone with two murders when someone kills a woman who is > pregnant????

Because they don’t in all cases?  Because there’s a distinction in many cases between "homicide" and "feticide"?  Because people can make a distinction between a right to not have a pregnancy interrupted by force and preventing a woman from choosing not to be pregnant?  Because almost all the laws that change assault on a pregnant woman into something closer to murder have been enacted in the last couple of years as part of a plan by the forced-incubation movement to slowly take away a woman’s right to choose what she does with her body? Is that what you’re referring to? You don’t have to bother to answer, in the interests of the rest of the newsgroup you’re going into my killfile. > As far as gay rights, well you wouldn’t like what I’d have to say about that > one so we’ll let that slide….

Yeah, probably not.  That’s what’s so hypocritical about a lot of the christianists – you want all the rights in the world as well as the right to deny other citizens equal rights.  You and your kind can just fuck off, you’re a threat to the future of this country and the rest of the world. G

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Oh Ray.  You’re so predictable.  Yawn. kj a female >by "Ray" <netne…@verizon.net> Dec 7, 2005 at >11:48 PM

Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! In my view "reproductive choices" is murder. If it wasn’t why would they charge someone with two murders when someone kills a woman who is pregnant???? As far as gay rights, well you wouldn’t like what I’d have to say about that one so we’ll let that slide…. "Gordo Mondragon" <ga_mondra…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:ga_mondragon-124E68.16405507122005@news-rdr-01-dummy.rdc-nyc.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "American Family Association". > They’re working hard to deny women reproductive choices and to deny gay > people equal rights.  They represent themselves as christians but they > are evil, mean, lying, hateful people. > You expect respect for your religious beliefs.  I expect respect for my > not having them.  Works both ways. > Gordo

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Gay rights and abortion? Boy did you bring up two hot button issues! In my view "reproductive choices" is murder. If it wasn’t why would they charge someone with two murders when someone kills a woman who is pregnant???? As far as gay rights, well you wouldn’t like what I’d have to say about that one so we’ll let that slide…. "Gordo Mondragon" <ga_mondra…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:ga_mondragon-124E68.16405507122005@news-rdr-01-dummy.rdc-nyc.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "American Family Association". > They’re working hard to deny women reproductive choices and to deny gay > people equal rights.  They represent themselves as christians but they > are evil, mean, lying, hateful people. > You expect respect for your religious beliefs.  I expect respect for my > not having them.  Works both ways. > Gordo > In article <OqHlf.15391$SY.5609@trnddc06>, "Ray" <netne…@verizon.net> > wrote: >> Brian, I don’t even know what the "AFA" is so I certainly can’t be a >> member >> or subsribe to their beliefs. I’m not even sure why you included me in >> your >> attack. Some Christians may be "preaching and sharing  their religious >> beliefs" but I haven’t. If you would be willing to listen I’d be more >> than >> happy to share what I believe and why… >> When people swear, use the Lord’s name in vain, or talk filthy it’s even >> more offensive than the "preaching and sharing  of religious beliefs". I >> hear "gutter talk" daily but I seldom ever hear someone sharing the good >> news. There are fanatics in everything not just religion. There are >> sports >> fanatics, food fanatics, and sex fanatics just to name a few. There are >> lots >> of people to you could go after, why waste your time on a few people who >> have found a source of spiritual comfort? >> Merry Christmas >> Ray >> "Brian" <m…@me.com> wrote in message >> news:YHGlf.603200$x96.225703@attbi_s72… >> > Paul2,Ray and the others that can’t understand why the sane >> > minority(according to you) find Christian’s offensive when they start >> > their preaching and sharing their religious beliefs.These links are >> > just >> > an example of the Hate and Intolerance that the AFA(members of the >> > supposed 95%)seem to adore and expect the rest of us to do the >> > same.None >> > you guys subscribe to these beliefs do you? >> > http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051206/AUTO01/512… >> > 1148 >> > http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/content/11339228521888524809/index.php >> > Peace & SVR, >> > BrianD

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Paul2,Ray and the others that can’t understand why the sane minority(according to you) find Christian’s offensive when they start their preaching and sharing their religious beliefs.These links are just an example of the Hate and Intolerance that the AFA(members of the supposed 95%)seem to adore and expect the rest of us to do the same.None you guys subscribe to these beliefs do you? http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051206/AUTO01/512… http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/content/11339228521888524809/index.php Peace & SVR, BrianD

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Brian, I don’t even know what the "AFA" is so I certainly can’t be a member or subsribe to their beliefs. I’m not even sure why you included me in your attack. Some Christians may be "preaching and sharing  their religious beliefs" but I haven’t. If you would be willing to listen I’d be more than happy to share what I believe and why… When people swear, use the Lord’s name in vain, or talk filthy it’s even more offensive than the "preaching and sharing  of religious beliefs". I hear "gutter talk" daily but I seldom ever hear someone sharing the good news. There are fanatics in everything not just religion. There are sports fanatics, food fanatics, and sex fanatics just to name a few. There are lots of people to you could go after, why waste your time on a few people who have found a source of spiritual comfort? Merry Christmas Ray "Brian" <m…@me.com> wrote in message

news:YHGlf.603200$x96.225703@attbi_s72… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Paul2,Ray and the others that can’t understand why the sane > minority(according to you) find Christian’s offensive when they start > their preaching and sharing their religious beliefs.These links are just > an example of the Hate and Intolerance that the AFA(members of the > supposed 95%)seem to adore and expect the rest of us to do the same.None > you guys subscribe to these beliefs do you? > http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051206/AUTO01/512… > http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/content/11339228521888524809/index.php > Peace & SVR, > BrianD

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"American Family Association". They’re working hard to deny women reproductive choices and to deny gay people equal rights.  They represent themselves as christians but they are evil, mean, lying, hateful people. You expect respect for your religious beliefs.  I expect respect for my not having them.  Works both ways. Gordo In article <OqHlf.15391$SY.5609@trnddc06>, "Ray" <netne…@verizon.net> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Brian, I don’t even know what the "AFA" is so I certainly can’t be a member > or subsribe to their beliefs. I’m not even sure why you included me in your > attack. Some Christians may be "preaching and sharing  their religious > beliefs" but I haven’t. If you would be willing to listen I’d be more than > happy to share what I believe and why… > When people swear, use the Lord’s name in vain, or talk filthy it’s even > more offensive than the "preaching and sharing  of religious beliefs". I > hear "gutter talk" daily but I seldom ever hear someone sharing the good > news. There are fanatics in everything not just religion. There are sports > fanatics, food fanatics, and sex fanatics just to name a few. There are lots > of people to you could go after, why waste your time on a few people who > have found a source of spiritual comfort? > Merry Christmas > Ray > "Brian" <m…@me.com> wrote in message > news:YHGlf.603200$x96.225703@attbi_s72… > > Paul2,Ray and the others that can’t understand why the sane > > minority(according to you) find Christian’s offensive when they start > > their preaching and sharing their religious beliefs.These links are just > > an example of the Hate and Intolerance that the AFA(members of the > > supposed 95%)seem to adore and expect the rest of us to do the same.None > > you guys subscribe to these beliefs do you? > > http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051206/AUTO01/512… > > 1148 > > http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/content/11339228521888524809/index.php > > Peace & SVR, > > BrianD

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Holy shit!

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And I was thinking that this board was slowing down… I’ve been away for a day and (yikes!!!) there’s 61 new posts! WS

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You are not to mention the word "holy" again.  Nor do I want to hear words that sound like "holy" such as "holly", "holistic", "hologram", or the word "lizard".   Doug "Waterspider" <waterspi…@moonlight.net> wrote in message

news:11paf4454kdoub3@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> And I was thinking that this board was slowing down… > I’ve been away for a day and (yikes!!!) there’s 61 new posts! > WS

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how bout bunny, Doug.  isn’t that cool?  bunny makes babies in the image of Him.  ha ha ha Mango "Doug" <dttr…@adelphia.net> wrote in message

news:4oKdncaFlNATQgvenZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@adelphia.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You are not to mention the word "holy" again.  Nor do I want to hear words > that sound like "holy" such as "holly", "holistic", "hologram", or the > word "lizard".   Doug > "Waterspider" <waterspi…@moonlight.net> wrote in message > news:11paf4454kdoub3@corp.supernews.com… >> And I was thinking that this board was slowing down… >> I’ve been away for a day and (yikes!!!) there’s 61 new posts! >> WS

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"cactus jammies" <cactusjamm…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:i7Elf.195082$Io.194193@clgrps13… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> how bout bunny, Doug.  isn’t that cool?  bunny makes babies in the image > of Him.  ha ha ha > Mango > "Doug" <dttr…@adelphia.net> wrote in message > news:4oKdncaFlNATQgvenZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@adelphia.com… >> You are not to mention the word "holy" again.  Nor do I want to hear >> words that sound like "holy" such as "holly", "holistic", "hologram", or >> the word "lizard".   Doug ROFL! >> "Waterspider" <waterspi…@moonlight.net> wrote in message >> news:11paf4454kdoub3@corp.supernews.com… >>> And I was thinking that this board was slowing down… >>> I’ve been away for a day and (yikes!!!) there’s 61 new posts! >>> WS

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"cactus jammies" <cactusjamm…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:i7Elf.195082$Io.194193@clgrps13… > how bout bunny, Doug.  isn’t that cool?  bunny makes babies in the image > of Him.  ha ha ha

You’ve got some BC Bud up your way too, haven’t you? C’mon, fess up! ROFLMAO! Waterspider – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Mango > "Doug" <dttr…@adelphia.net> wrote in message > news:4oKdncaFlNATQgvenZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@adelphia.com… >> You are not to mention the word "holy" again.  Nor do I want to hear >> words that sound like "holy" such as "holly", "holistic", "hologram", or >> the word "lizard".   Doug >> "Waterspider" <waterspi…@moonlight.net> wrote in message >> news:11paf4454kdoub3@corp.supernews.com… >>> And I was thinking that this board was slowing down… >>> I’ve been away for a day and (yikes!!!) there’s 61 new posts! >>> WS

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On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 08:11:44 -0500, "Doug" <dttr…@adelphia.net>, in message ID <4oKdncaFlNATQgvenZ2dnUVZ_sedn…@adelphia.com>, in the newsgroup alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote: >You are not to mention the word "holy" again.  Nor do I want to hear words >that sound like "holy" such as "holly", "holistic", "hologram", or the word >"lizard".   Doug

My socks are holy, darn it. — Paul Use the reply by email facility in your newsreader to send email

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"Paul" <dontspa…@westgreen.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message

news:lebep1hl56krt8ne2ehugjpvd4eq1tof4c@4ax.com… > On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 08:11:44 -0500, "Doug" <dttr…@adelphia.net>, in > message ID <4oKdncaFlNATQgvenZ2dnUVZ_sedn…@adelphia.com>, in the > newsgroup alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote: >>You are not to mention the word "holy" again.  Nor do I want to hear words >>that sound like "holy" such as "holly", "holistic", "hologram", or the >>word >>"lizard".   Doug > My socks are holy, darn it. > — > Paul

     :-)  :-)  :-)     Doug

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Tips on searching for someone…

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"Paul2" <emperor…@nospam.rogers.com> wrote … <snips interspersed>  > I even found her sister who had married a old army buddy of mine and she > couldn’t even find Carme(the childs mother).

This is odd; sisters usually know where each other are. Any other siblings? Cousins, etc.? Parents alive? Have you been to Germany to look for old friends who might be in touch? > They are German nationals who married Canadians. At least that is the last > news I have on Carmen. I even found out the name of the guy she married(I > also knew him in the army)but when I located the area he was from I found > out he comitted suicide years ago and no one knows of Carmen or > Marcus(childs name)where abouts.

Perhaps there’s military pension being issued and you could have a message forwarded via that route, with a bit of cooperation from the army bureaucracy of course. > He was born in 79 so saying he’s a child is way off.

He might use your last name, Carmen’s maiden name or her husband’s name, and I would think Canada is a likely place to search. It’s also possible that he goes by his middle name or has Anglacized his name to Mark (I know, I’m making the search broader rather than narrower, but if you have no leads after all this time maybe you should be looking in a different direction). Have you looked at university, even high school, registration & grad lists in a likely timeframe? Have you contacted German and Canadian depts. of vital statistics? Perhaps Carmen is/was bitter enough to never want to hear from you again and this is why no one is giving you any information, and perhaps your son was told that you’re dead (not uncommon in these situations) and has no idea you’re looking for him. This would make finding him more difficult, but not impossible. You might consider hiring a private detective or a skip tracer to do some of this research for you. They can get easier access to drivers licence info and other such stuff that’s not available to "the general public." Good luck, Paul. Waterspider

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Some good ideas there WS, thank you. Yeah, I haven’t ruled out that Carmen might have just avoided all kinds of "problems" and told him I was dead. I also think that she married when Marcus was fairly young and might have raised him to believe her husband was the Dad. All kinds of scenarios crop up in my mind…. November can be particularly hard because this is his birth month. I would just love to meet him if only for a short time to tell him that I’m sorry and that he is loved. But thats in a perfect world….. Thanks again Paul2 "Waterspider" <waterspi…@moonlight.net> wrote in message

news:11ok1sg25pbof0e@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Paul2" <emperor…@nospam.rogers.com> wrote … > <snips interspersed> > > I even found her sister who had married a old army buddy of mine and she >> couldn’t even find Carme(the childs mother). > This is odd; sisters usually know where each other are. Any other > siblings? Cousins, etc.? Parents alive? Have you been to Germany to look > for old friends who might be in touch? >> They are German nationals who married Canadians. At least that is the >> last news I have on Carmen. I even found out the name of the guy she >> married(I also knew him in the army)but when I located the area he was >> from I found out he comitted suicide years ago and no one knows of Carmen >> or Marcus(childs name)where abouts. > Perhaps there’s military pension being issued and you could have a message > forwarded via that route, with a bit of cooperation from the army > bureaucracy of course. >> He was born in 79 so saying he’s a child is way off. > He might use your last name, Carmen’s maiden name or her husband’s name, > and I would think Canada is a likely place to search. It’s also possible > that he goes by his middle name or has Anglacized his name to Mark (I > know, I’m making the search broader rather than narrower, but if you have > no leads after all this time maybe you should be looking in a different > direction). > Have you looked at university, even high school, registration & grad lists > in a likely timeframe? > Have you contacted German and Canadian depts. of vital statistics? > Perhaps Carmen is/was bitter enough to never want to hear from you again > and this is why no one is giving you any information, and perhaps your son > was told that you’re dead (not uncommon in these situations) and has no > idea you’re looking for him. This would make finding him more difficult, > but not impossible. > You might consider hiring a private detective or a skip tracer to do some > of this research for you. They can get easier access to drivers licence > info and other such stuff that’s not available to "the general public." > Good luck, Paul. > Waterspider

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"Paul2" <emperor…@nospam.rogers.com> wrote in message

news:mbmdneu9hKkOvhfenZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@rogers.com… > Some good ideas there WS, thank you. > Yeah, I haven’t ruled out that Carmen might have just avoided all kinds of > "problems" and told him I was dead. > I also think that she married when Marcus was fairly young and might have > raised him to believe her husband was the Dad. > All kinds of scenarios crop up in my mind…. > November can be particularly hard because this is his birth month. > I would just love to meet him if only for a short time to tell him that > I’m sorry and that he is loved. > But thats in a perfect world…..

Well, don’t give up. Another scenario is that he doesn’t know you exist, still another is that he knows he has a biological dad out there somewhere and doesn’t know how to get in touch with you. Of course you’re risking that the meeting may be unpleasant; he may harbour all kinds of bitterness against you. So be it, though; my belief is that everyone deserves to know the truth. Good luck, Waterspider

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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 13:05:26 -0500, "Paul2" <emperor…@nospam.rogers.com>, in message ID <h92dnZB8Oc_1aBTeRVn…@rogers.com>, in the newsgroup alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote: >Thanks, but I really was hoping for some "new" ways of searching. I >basically knew there wasn’t much hope of anything I hadn’t already tried, >but hey, gotta keep looking.

In the UK, the Salvation Army used to do searches like this.  Maybe they (or the equivalent where you are) could help you.  It’s possible that they only use the same methods that you have though. — Paul Use the reply by email facility in your newsreader to send email

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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 13:50:04 -0800, "Waterspider" <waterspi…@moonlight.net>, in message ID <11okagc3gtvu…@corp.supernews.com>, in the newsgroup alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote: >Well, don’t give up. Another scenario is that he doesn’t know you exist, >still another is that he knows he has a biological dad out there somewhere >and doesn’t know how to get in touch with you. Of course you’re risking that >the meeting may be unpleasant; he may harbour all kinds of bitterness >against you. So be it, though; my belief is that everyone deserves to know >the truth.

Yes, you need to tread carefully even if you do manage to trace this person.  It’s a huge can of worms that you may be trying to open – especially if they believe someone else to be their father.  It could have major repercussions on someones life. Just a footnote here from my own father’s experience.  He was adopted when he was a few weeks old (his mother was a single mum in the 1920s which was uncool back then)  Also, she was only 14 years older than him.  He managed to track her down when he got to his mid 30s (I have faint recollections of this).  It turned out that he had 11 half brothers and 1 half sister and she was on her third marriage.  She was a drunk, a cheat, and her swearing would embarass a trooper.  She was fun in a way though.  After a few years he stopped going to see her. I found out later that this was probably because she never revealed who his father was (maybe she didn’t actually know). The day he found her was the day before a family wedding and she asked him to keep quiet about who he was until after the wedding (not hers LOL) as she didn’t want anything to take attention away from the wedding.  Her husband didn’t know about him (not surprising really as there was no need for him to). I lost track many years ago of her and all the half uncles etc.  I imagine she’s probably dead now as she would be about 90 and she drank like a fish. — Paul Use the reply by email facility in your newsreader to send email

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In article <qt9lo1d9e0q1kiuq0gsrs75lh7qovpo…@4ax.com>, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -dontspa…@westgreen.freeserve.co.uk (Paul) wrote: > On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 13:05:26 -0500, "Paul2" > <emperor…@nospam.rogers.com>, in message ID > <h92dnZB8Oc_1aBTeRVn…@rogers.com>, in the newsgroup > alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote: > >Thanks, but I really was hoping for some "new" ways of searching. I > >basically knew there wasn’t much hope of anything I hadn’t already tried, > >but hey, gotta keep looking. > In the UK, the Salvation Army used to do searches like this.  Maybe > they (or the equivalent where you are) could help you.  It’s possible > that they only use the same methods that you have though. > — > Paul > Use the reply by email facility in your > newsreader to send email

That’s right. I had forgotten about them. http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/ Firebird Never trust anybody who is too sophisticated to own a rubber chicken. http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/index.html http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/

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Yes, there is always the chance of a undesired outcome. But the potential for healing is tremendous. With anything there is a risk………I just put myself in his shoes……..I would choose rather to know, than not know. And of course if I ever did locate him I wouldn’t just bang down the door and announce myself. I would try to do some investigating and treading gently, but eventually reveal myself and my deep regrets and apologies. It’s in God’s hands…………..His will be done. Thanks Paul2 "Paul" <dontspa…@westgreen.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message

news:d2alo118jmj56qr0hobmiqhjavr36s1u2i@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 13:50:04 -0800, "Waterspider" > <waterspi…@moonlight.net>, in message ID > <11okagc3gtvu…@corp.supernews.com>, in the newsgroup > alt.support.hepatitis-c wrote: >>Well, don’t give up. Another scenario is that he doesn’t know you exist, >>still another is that he knows he has a biological dad out there somewhere >>and doesn’t know how to get in touch with you. Of course you’re risking >>that >>the meeting may be unpleasant; he may harbour all kinds of bitterness >>against you. So be it, though; my belief is that everyone deserves to know >>the truth. > Yes, you need to tread carefully even if you do manage to trace this > person.  It’s a huge can of worms that you may be trying to open – > especially if they believe someone else to be their father.  It could > have major repercussions on someones life. > Just a footnote here from my own father’s experience.  He was adopted > when he was a few weeks old (his mother was a single mum in the 1920s > which was uncool back then)  Also, she was only 14 years older than > him.  He managed to track her down when he got to his mid 30s (I have > faint recollections of this).  It turned out that he had 11 half > brothers and 1 half sister and she was on her third marriage.  She was > a drunk, a cheat, and her swearing would embarass a trooper.  She was > fun in a way though.  After a few years he stopped going to see her. > I found out later that this was probably because she never revealed > who his father was (maybe she didn’t actually know). > The day he found her was the day before a family wedding and she asked > him to keep quiet about who he was until after the wedding (not hers > LOL) as she didn’t want anything to take attention away from the > wedding.  Her husband didn’t know about him (not surprising really as > there was no need for him to). > I lost track many years ago of her and all the half uncles etc.  I > imagine she’s probably dead now as she would be about 90 and she drank > like a fish. > — > Paul > Use the reply by email facility in your > newsreader to send email

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"Paul2" <emperor…@nospam.rogers.com> wrote in message

news:hYKdnQ-UhaFydhfeRVn-rw@rogers.com… > Yes, there is always the chance of a undesired outcome. But the potential > for healing is tremendous. With anything there is a risk………I just > put myself in his shoes……..I would choose rather to know, than not > know. > And of course if I ever did locate him I wouldn’t just bang down the door > and announce myself. I would try to do some investigating and treading > gently, but eventually reveal myself and my deep regrets and apologies. > It’s in God’s hands…………..His will be done.

Not to get into another religious discussion here, but it’s in *your* hands. You can choose to continue your search, and the likelihood of success is directly proportional to the amount of time and money you choose to dedicate to it. Even though the outcome may not be what you hoped, I hope you don’t give up, both for your sake and your son’s (he –everyone– deserves the truth). There’s this old saying, "best not to die wondering…" All the best to you, Waterspider

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"Paul2" <emperor…@nospam.rogers.com> wrote in message

news:hYKdnQ-UhaFydhfeRVn-rw@rogers.com… > Yes, there is always the chance of a undesired outcome. But the potential > for healing is tremendous.

Who’s healing? his or yours?        Doug

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Both, of course… Paul2 "Doug" <d…@adelphia.net> wrote in message

news:qLednXtrtOVsiRbenZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@adelphia.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Paul2" <emperor…@nospam.rogers.com> wrote in message > news:hYKdnQ-UhaFydhfeRVn-rw@rogers.com… >> Yes, there is always the chance of a undesired outcome. But the potential >> for healing is tremendous. > Who’s healing? his or yours?        Doug

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Besides all the usual Avenues Post on Ancestry.com If you don’t have an account with them and are ernest….I would be willing to help. "Paul2" <emperor…@nospam.rogers.com> wrote in message

news:hMWdnZ0_gtg9VhTeRVn-uA@rogers.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> While I was in West Germany, 75-81, I fathered a child who I haven’t seen > since I left Germany. He was 2 years old when I left and I never once > contacted the mother. I take full responsibility for my fool hardy days > and the immature way I handled my responsibilities but the mother had alot > to do with the sad outcome of things. > Anyway, I’ve tried over the last 20 years to find them…I just can’t seem > to get any concrete leads….. > I even found her sister who had married a old army buddy of mine and she > couldn’t even find Carme(the childs mother). > They are German nationals who married Canadians. At least that is the last > news I have on Carmen. I even found out the name of the guy she married(I > also knew him in the army)but when I located the area he was from I found > out he comitted suicide years ago and no one knows of Carmen or > Marcus(childs name)where abouts. He was born in 79 so saying he’s a child > is way off. But after having 3 great kids and  all of them having a Dad > all their lives leaves me very sad when I think of Marcus and his not > knowing me. > Is there any search programs or what ever that I might use? > Anything you can add might help. > I’ve tried tons of avenues but I’m open to try more. > Thanks > Paul2

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Send me a private email Paul. Mags "Paul2" <emperor…@nospam.rogers.com> wrote in message

news:hMWdnZ0_gtg9VhTeRVn-uA@rogers.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> While I was in West Germany, 75-81, I fathered a child who I haven’t seen > since I left Germany. He was 2 years old when I left and I never once > contacted the mother. I take full responsibility for my fool hardy days > and the immature way I handled my responsibilities but the mother had alot > to do with the sad outcome of things. > Anyway, I’ve tried over the last 20 years to find them…I just can’t seem > to get any concrete leads….. > I even found her sister who had married a old army buddy of mine and she > couldn’t even find Carme(the childs mother). > They are German nationals who married Canadians. At least that is the last > news I have on Carmen. I even found out the name of the guy she married(I > also knew him in the army)but when I located the area he was from I found > out he comitted suicide years ago and no one knows of Carmen or > Marcus(childs name)where abouts. He was born in 79 so saying he’s a child > is way off. But after having 3 great kids and  all of them having a Dad > all their lives leaves me very sad when I think of Marcus and his not > knowing me. > Is there any search programs or what ever that I might use? > Anything you can add might help. > I’ve tried tons of avenues but I’m open to try more. > Thanks > Paul2

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While I was in West Germany, 75-81, I fathered a child who I haven’t seen since I left Germany. He was 2 years old when I left and I never once contacted the mother. I take full responsibility for my fool hardy days and the immature way I handled my responsibilities but the mother had alot to do with the sad outcome of things. Anyway, I’ve tried over the last 20 years to find them…I just can’t seem to get any concrete leads….. I even found her sister who had married a old army buddy of mine and she couldn’t even find Carme(the childs mother). They are German nationals who married Canadians. At least that is the last news I have on Carmen. I even found out the name of the guy she married(I also knew him in the army)but when I located the area he was from I found out he comitted suicide years ago and no one knows of Carmen or Marcus(childs name)where abouts. He was born in 79 so saying he’s a child is way off. But after having 3 great kids and  all of them having a Dad all their lives leaves me very sad when I think of Marcus and his not knowing me. Is there any search programs or what ever that I might use? Anything you can add might help. I’ve tried tons of avenues but I’m open to try more. Thanks Paul2

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In article <hMWdnZ0_gtg9VhTeRVn…@rogers.com>, emperor…@nospam.rogers.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -(Paul2) wrote: > While I was in West Germany, 75-81, I fathered a child who I haven’t seen > since I left Germany. He was 2 years old when I left and I never once > contacted the mother. I take full responsibility for my fool hardy days and > the immature way I handled my responsibilities but the mother had alot to do > with the sad outcome of things. > Anyway, I’ve tried over the last 20 years to find them…I just can’t seem > to get any concrete leads….. > I even found her sister who had married a old army buddy of mine and she > couldn’t even find Carme(the childs mother). > They are German nationals who married Canadians. At least that is the last > news I have on Carmen. I even found out the name of the guy she married(I > also knew him in the army)but when I located the area he was from I found > out he comitted suicide years ago and no one knows of Carmen or > Marcus(childs name)where abouts. He was born in 79 so saying he’s a child is > way off. But after having 3 great kids and  all of them having a Dad all > their lives leaves me very sad when I think of Marcus and his not knowing > me. > Is there any search programs or what ever that I might use? > Anything you can add might help. > I’ve tried tons of avenues but I’m open to try more. > Thanks > Paul2

http://www.infospace.com/ http://www.iaf.net/ http://www.ithaki.net/ http://www.whowhere.lycos.com/ http://www.switchboard.com/ http://www.northernlight.com/ Firebird Never trust anybody who is too sophisticated to own a rubber chicken. http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/index.html http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Alan wrote: > In article <hMWdnZ0_gtg9VhTeRVn…@rogers.com>, emperor…@nospam.rogers.com > (Paul2) wrote: >>While I was in West Germany, 75-81, I fathered a child who I haven’t seen >>since I left Germany. He was 2 years old when I left and I never once >>contacted the mother. I take full responsibility for my fool hardy days and >>the immature way I handled my responsibilities but the mother had alot to do >>with the sad outcome of things. >>Anyway, I’ve tried over the last 20 years to find them…I just can’t seem >>to get any concrete leads….. >>I even found her sister who had married a old army buddy of mine and she >>couldn’t even find Carme(the childs mother). >>They are German nationals who married Canadians. At least that is the last >>news I have on Carmen. I even found out the name of the guy she married(I >>also knew him in the army)but when I located the area he was from I found >>out he comitted suicide years ago and no one knows of Carmen or >>Marcus(childs name)where abouts. He was born in 79 so saying he’s a child is >>way off. But after having 3 great kids and  all of them having a Dad all >>their lives leaves me very sad when I think of Marcus and his not knowing >>me. >>Is there any search programs or what ever that I might use? >>Anything you can add might help. >>I’ve tried tons of avenues but I’m open to try more. >>Thanks >>Paul2 > http://www.infospace.com/ > http://www.iaf.net/ > http://www.ithaki.net/ > http://www.whowhere.lycos.com/ > http://www.switchboard.com/ > http://www.northernlight.com/

They all lead to the same place and then you got to pay. Cody – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Firebird > Never trust anybody who is too sophisticated to own a rubber chicken. > http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/index.html > http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/

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In article <ckkif.124261$US.5…@news.ono.com>, nos…@nuncaspam.comorg (Michael – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Cody) wrote: > Alan wrote: > > In article <hMWdnZ0_gtg9VhTeRVn…@rogers.com>, > > emperor…@nospam.rogers.com (Paul2) wrote: > >>While I was in West Germany, 75-81, I fathered a child who I haven’t seen > >>since I left Germany. He was 2 years old when I left and I never once > >>contacted the mother. I take full responsibility for my fool hardy days and > >>the immature way I handled my responsibilities but the mother had alot to > do >>with the sad outcome of things. > >>Anyway, I’ve tried over the last 20 years to find them…I just can’t seem > >>to get any concrete leads….. > >>I even found her sister who had married a old army buddy of mine and she > >>couldn’t even find Carme(the childs mother). > >>They are German nationals who married Canadians. At least that is the last > >>news I have on Carmen. I even found out the name of the guy she married(I > >>also knew him in the army)but when I located the area he was from I found > >>out he comitted suicide years ago and no one knows of Carmen or > >>Marcus(childs name)where abouts. He was born in 79 so saying he’s a child > is >>way off. But after having 3 great kids and  all of them having a Dad all > >>their lives leaves me very sad when I think of Marcus and his not knowing > >>me. > >>Is there any search programs or what ever that I might use? > >>Anything you can add might help. > >>I’ve tried tons of avenues but I’m open to try more. > >>Thanks > >>Paul2 > > http://www.infospace.com/ > > http://www.iaf.net/ > > http://www.ithaki.net/ > > http://www.whowhere.lycos.com/ > > http://www.switchboard.com/ > > http://www.northernlight.com/ > They all lead to the same place and then you got to pay. > Cody

Hey, it’s the American way Of course, you could just use Google, which is free Firebird Never trust anybody who is too sophisticated to own a rubber chicken. http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/index.html http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/

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Thanks, but I really was hoping for some "new" ways of searching. I basically knew there wasn’t much hope of anything I hadn’t already tried, but hey, gotta keep looking. Paul2 "Alan" <a…@veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk> wrote in message

news:memo.20051127180028.836I@veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article <ckkif.124261$US.5…@news.ono.com>, nos…@nuncaspam.comorg > (Michael > Cody) wrote: >> Alan wrote: >> > In article <hMWdnZ0_gtg9VhTeRVn…@rogers.com>, >> > emperor…@nospam.rogers.com (Paul2) wrote: >> >>While I was in West Germany, 75-81, I fathered a child who I haven’t >> >>seen >> >>since I left Germany. He was 2 years old when I left and I never once >> >>contacted the mother. I take full responsibility for my fool hardy days >> >>and >> >>the immature way I handled my responsibilities but the mother had alot >> >>to >> do >>with the sad outcome of things. >> >>Anyway, I’ve tried over the last 20 years to find them…I just can’t >> >>seem >> >>to get any concrete leads….. >> >>I even found her sister who had married a old army buddy of mine and >> >>she >> >>couldn’t even find Carme(the childs mother). >> >>They are German nationals who married Canadians. At least that is the >> >>last >> >>news I have on Carmen. I even found out the name of the guy she >> >>married(I >> >>also knew him in the army)but when I located the area he was from I >> >>found >> >>out he comitted suicide years ago and no one knows of Carmen or >> >>Marcus(childs name)where abouts. He was born in 79 so saying he’s a >> >>child >> is >>way off. But after having 3 great kids and  all of them having a Dad >> all >> >>their lives leaves me very sad when I think of Marcus and his not >> >>knowing >> >>me. >> >>Is there any search programs or what ever that I might use? >> >>Anything you can add might help. >> >>I’ve tried tons of avenues but I’m open to try more. >> >>Thanks >> >>Paul2 >> > http://www.infospace.com/ >> > http://www.iaf.net/ >> > http://www.ithaki.net/ >> > http://www.whowhere.lycos.com/ >> > http://www.switchboard.com/ >> > http://www.northernlight.com/ >> They all lead to the same place and then you got to pay. >> Cody > Hey, it’s the American way > Of course, you could just use Google, which is free > Firebird > Never trust anybody who is too sophisticated to own a rubber chicken. > http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/index.html > http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/

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My eyes are blue

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Cheap sunglasses, I hope… elmo <burrrppp> /////// Why didnt I think of that – because I am getting messed here! Took your advice and put on sunglasses had a few tokes and ate like a pig. Mags <elmoemer…@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:8495-4383B637-1106@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net… My eyes are blue Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 5:25pm (CST+1) From: chill…@rogers.com (mags) Okay this is troubling to me – My eyes are aching like no tomorrow. I am so light sensitive. What does this tx or this illness do to your eyes. I hope I am not going to go bling (okay no jokes guys)! Mags/Pegi //////////// I would guess that if your eyeballs are aching, that increased intraocular pressure might well be causing it. If that’s the case, smoking liberal amounts of MJ will help relieve the ache. If it doesn’t, you won’t give a shit anyways. elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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"mags" <chill…@rogers.com> wrote in message

news:Xt-dnZlF8MXCZhnenZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@rogers.com… > You gave me my first belly laugh all week – thanks Spidey!

But Mags… you said NO JOKES! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>> And despite your plea for no jokes… I don’t think going bling would be >>> that bad. Going blind, though… >>> Thomas >> Thomas, I have to tell you, I had to exercise serious self-control not to >> respond to the bling thing… >> Do you suppose the eye problems could be caused by too much bling? >> p.s. Sorry, Mags. <g>

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"mags" <chill…@rogers.com> wrote in message

news:Xt-dnZ5F8MXDZhnenZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@rogers.com… > LOL – who the frig wrote that email – must of been Pegi.  Oh well blind, > bling what the frig lol.  What really pisses me off and it seems to be a > lot lately is – why doesnt my spell check work on newsgroups- Anyone out > there have the fix???

Yeah, don’t rely on a spell-checker because it lets wrong "real words" through its filter, i.e. bling. You see, everyone’s confused about spell-checkers; the original (designed by a wiccan group in Silicon Valley) tested spells for their accuracy and it worked fine for its purpose. Only problem is, the technology was stolen by the grand wizard of the Hells Gates coven and he marketed it to the general pubic. Yes, pubic. That’s what happens when you trust a spell-checker to find spelling mistakes. You’ll notice that "eye of newt" is never mis-spelled though, and now you know the reason why. WS

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Mags….Spidey has been quite funny on a lot of posts…she cracks me up! Oh and thanks for asking about this…I’ve been having similar problems and chalked it up to allergies! dort "mags" <chill…@rogers.com> wrote in message

news:Xt-dnZlF8MXCZhnenZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@rogers.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You gave me my first belly laugh all week – thanks Spidey! > Mags > "Waterspider" <waterspi…@moonlight.net> wrote in message > news:11o7h1q6iiojqcc@corp.supernews.com… >> "Thomas Wagner" <t…@capecod.com> wrote in message >> news:u1f7o15817vst79itjopa44rq05q9jss9c@4ax.com… >>> On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:25:57 -0500, "mags" <chill…@rogers.com> wrote: >>> And despite your plea for no jokes… I don’t think going bling would be >>> that bad. Going blind, though… >>> Thomas >> Thomas, I have to tell you, I had to exercise serious self-control not to >> respond to the bling thing… >> Do you suppose the eye problems could be caused by too much bling? >> Waterspider >> p.s. Sorry, Mags. <g>

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Hi Mags.  I had a terrible time with eye trouble the first half of tx. My vision blurred badly, partly from the interferon and partly from fatigue-related amblyopia (wandering eye that I didn’t even know i had before tx).  I also had bad light sensitvity.  Over time I found that much of it was related to the shot and wore off as the shot wore off. My eyes were bloodshot and irritated all the time.  All of that has cleared up except I think I’ve had a general decline in my focus, eg. I need stronger glasses to read.  Interferon can cause optic nerve damage called interferon retinopathy, which causes blind spots (sometimes permanent) that are called "cotton wool spots."  i’ve been seing an opthamalogist every 3 months and don’t have any serious damage.  if you think you are having blind spots or wavy patches, get thee to an opthamalogist. One of the things that blasted me mentally early on in tx was not being able to differentiate between effects of the disease and toxic effects of the treatment.  It was confusing and scary. You just have to kind of wrestle with that one and try to remember what your symptoms were before you started ts. Kathy

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mags wrote: > Okay this is troubling to me – My eyes are aching like no tomorrow.  I am so > light sensitive.  What does this tx or this illness do to your eyes.  I hope > I am not going to go bling (okay no jokes guys)! > Mags/Pegi

I was diagnosed at age 47 with Retinitas  Pigmentosa after my first 48 weeks of tx. I now see a retina specialist at least once a year. RP is supposed to be heriditary, affects most peolple in their teens or twenties and is a progressive disease. When I was preparing for my second more aggressive round of tx (week 28 now), I had him take photos of my retinas to document the damage. Just saw him recently and my optic nerves are fine and the RP hasn’t really progressed, since it was diagnosed. Not even during this round of tx. Sometimes I kick stuff and I do have some loss of peripheral vision. But it has not been a problem. My eyes did ache (along with the rest of my head) during the first 14-15 weeks of tx. That is much better now. I would recommend an eye exam, they can  do a color test for optic nerve damage and a peripheral vision test to see if you have problems with that. Good luck, SES

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My eyes are blue   Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 5:25pm (CST+1) From: chill…@rogers.com (mags) Okay this is troubling to me – My eyes are aching like no tomorrow. I am so light sensitive. What does this tx or this illness do to your eyes. I hope I am not going to go bling (okay no jokes guys)! Mags/Pegi //////////// I would guess that if your eyeballs are aching, that increased intraocular pressure might well be causing it.  If that’s the case, smoking liberal amounts of MJ will help relieve the ache.  If it doesn’t, you won’t give a shit anyways.  :-) elmo   http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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Excellent advice, good for whatever ails you. SES

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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:25:57 -0500, "mags" <chill…@rogers.com> wrote: >Okay this is troubling to me – My eyes are aching like no tomorrow.  I am so >light sensitive.  What does this tx or this illness do to your eyes.  I hope >I am not going to go bling (okay no jokes guys)!

It may not be serious, but please have it checked out. Some tx sides are only transient and clear up by themselves, but some can lead to permanent damage when left untreated. Only your eye doc can tell the difference. And despite your plea for no jokes… I don’t think going bling would be that bad. Going blind, though… Thomas — To reach me, complete my last name in the address.

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"Thomas Wagner" <t…@capecod.com> wrote in message

news:u1f7o15817vst79itjopa44rq05q9jss9c@4ax.com… > On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:25:57 -0500, "mags" <chill…@rogers.com> wrote: > And despite your plea for no jokes… I don’t think going bling would be > that bad. Going blind, though… > Thomas

Thomas, I have to tell you, I had to exercise serious self-control not to respond to the bling thing… Do you suppose the eye problems could be caused by too much bling? Waterspider p.s. Sorry, Mags. <g>

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LOL – who the frig wrote that email – must of been Pegi.  Oh well blind, bling what the frig lol.  What really pisses me off and it seems to be a lot lately is – why doesnt my spell check work on newsgroups- Anyone out there have the fix??? Mags "Thomas Wagner" <t…@capecod.com> wrote in message

news:u1f7o15817vst79itjopa44rq05q9jss9c@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:25:57 -0500, "mags" <chill…@rogers.com> wrote: >>Okay this is troubling to me – My eyes are aching like no tomorrow.  I am >>so >>light sensitive.  What does this tx or this illness do to your eyes.  I >>hope >>I am not going to go bling (okay no jokes guys)! > It may not be serious, but please have it checked out. Some tx sides are > only transient and clear up by themselves, but some can lead to > permanent damage when left untreated. Only your eye doc can tell the > difference. > And despite your plea for no jokes… I don’t think going bling would be > that bad. Going blind, though… > Thomas > — > To reach me, complete my last name in the address.

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Why didnt I think of that – because I am getting messed here!  Took your advice and put on sunglasses had a few tokes and ate like a pig. Mags <elmoemer…@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:8495-4383B637-1106@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My eyes are blue > Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 5:25pm (CST+1) > From: chill…@rogers.com (mags) > Okay this is troubling to me – My eyes are aching like no tomorrow. I am > so light sensitive. What does this tx or this illness do to your eyes. I > hope I am not going to go bling (okay no jokes guys)! > Mags/Pegi > //////////// > I would guess that if your eyeballs are aching, that increased > intraocular pressure might well be causing it.  If that’s the case, > smoking liberal amounts of MJ will help relieve the ache.  If it > doesn’t, you won’t give a shit anyways.  :-) > elmo > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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You gave me my first belly laugh all week – thanks Spidey! Mags "Waterspider" <waterspi…@moonlight.net> wrote in message

news:11o7h1q6iiojqcc@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Thomas Wagner" <t…@capecod.com> wrote in message > news:u1f7o15817vst79itjopa44rq05q9jss9c@4ax.com… >> On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:25:57 -0500, "mags" <chill…@rogers.com> wrote: >> And despite your plea for no jokes… I don’t think going bling would be >> that bad. Going blind, though… >> Thomas > Thomas, I have to tell you, I had to exercise serious self-control not to > respond to the bling thing… > Do you suppose the eye problems could be caused by too much bling? > Waterspider > p.s. Sorry, Mags. <g>

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Okay this is troubling to me – My eyes are aching like no tomorrow.  I am so light sensitive.  What does this tx or this illness do to your eyes.  I hope I am not going to go bling (okay no jokes guys)! Mags/Pegi

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In article <m-ednc8bFdtrBx7enZ2dnUVZ_sudn…@rogers.com>, chill…@rogers.com (mags) wrote: > Okay this is troubling to me – My eyes are aching like no tomorrow.  I am so > light sensitive.  What does this tx or this illness do to your eyes.  I hope > I am not going to go bling (okay no jokes guys)! > Mags/Pegi

The TX does that and it goes away afterwards, in fact sometimes it goes away quicker. Alan "Can’t you see we’re still here, Can’t you see we’re still here, Singing loud; Singing clear, We shall not go under, We’re still here." Nemesis Peace Centre http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/protector.html Abuse of Women and Children http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/ Nemesis News http://lordcerneabbas.blogspot.com/ Absolute Anarchy http://lordcerneabbastoo.blogspot.com/ http://www.john-lennon.com/

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I had the eye pics done prior to starting treatment. I am checking with BCLD on Friday. Mags "Steve" <Chemo…@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:1132705934.025148.78830@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> mags wrote: >> Okay this is troubling to me – My eyes are aching like no tomorrow.  I am >> so >> light sensitive.  What does this tx or this illness do to your eyes.  I >> hope >> I am not going to go bling (okay no jokes guys)! >> Mags/Pegi > I was diagnosed at age 47 with Retinitas  Pigmentosa after my first 48 > weeks of tx. > I now see a retina specialist at least once a year. RP is supposed to > be heriditary, affects most peolple in their teens or twenties and is a > progressive disease. When I was preparing for my second more aggressive > round of tx (week 28 now), I had him take photos of my retinas to > document the damage. Just saw him recently and my optic nerves are fine > and the RP hasn’t really progressed, since it was diagnosed. Not even > during this round of tx. > Sometimes I kick stuff and I do have some loss of peripheral vision. > But it has not been a problem. My eyes did ache (along with the rest of > my head) during the first 14-15 weeks of tx. That is much better now. > I would recommend an eye exam, they can  do a color test for optic > nerve damage and a peripheral vision test to see if you have problems > with that. > Good luck, > SES

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hello everybody

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i hope all of you are doing as well as can. Randy

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In article <6222-43793103-1…@storefull-3353.bay.webtv.net>, coinsinwell1…@webtv.net (Whatsup Doc) wrote: > i hope all of you are doing as well as can. Randy

What? Living in the land of the *clueless* and *hopeless* ??? Yea dream on. *snigger* Lord Cerne Abbas http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/identity.html http://lordcerneabbastoo.blogspot.com/ 50 Years Is Enough             http://50years.org             /^^            /  -/           /  -/         ,/-../        ./…./    ./’-/’…’/'–`.,    /’/…/…./……./"-   (‘(…’…’…. -~/’…’)     .               ‘.  ../     ‘… .         _..’      .             (       ………….

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hello everybody   Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 7:51pm (CST+1) From: coinsinwell1…@webtv.net (Whatsup

Motocross today!!

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It’s quiet in here this morning, all the Friday Night Shooters snugly tucked into bed, sweating like little piggies.   …………. "Hey Barney, what’s that thing up there dropping out of the sky?" "Sure looks like a size 12 boot to me, Fred." Elmo (ut oh)   http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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Hey how ya feelin’ today Elm?  Older?  Hungover?  How was the concert? Here’s a birthday kiss for you from me: http://www.ngz-online.de/news/journal/2002-0416/jane_goodall.html No motocross for me today.  Maybe some  brownies (Martha’s extra special brownies and a nest in the den. kj kj

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Re: Motocross today!!   Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 1:12pm (CST+1) From: kjohyay…@nospamyahoo.com (kjoh) Hey how ya feelin’ today Elm? Older? Hungover? How was the concert? Here’s a birthday kiss for you from me: http://www.ngz-online.de/news/journal/2002-0416/jane_goodall.html No motocross for me today. Maybe some brownies (Martha’s extra special brownies and a nest in the den. kj kj /////////// I feel too good for it being my birthday yesterday.  Just kidding.  I didn’t go to the show last night because we had tornado warnings here just about the time I was getting ready to leave.  Didn’t want to be walking around downtown in a tornado or get my car beat to hell in the hail storm we were supposed to get.  Hank will be back, I hope.  Aint no big deal! I hear those den nests are pretty cozy.  With Martha’s special brownies to boot.  I’m getting sleepy just thinking about it.  :-) elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

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