Hepatitis C [HCV]

Jim McGreevey – Another GAY Democratic Governor bites the dust

admin — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 00:00:00 +0000

Question:

Looks like the gay and non-Christain (sic) Governor, Jim McGreevey likes the "twink meat". How come Republican Governors like Arnold are accused of groping women and Democrat Governors prefer to "slurp" on "twink meat" and hate Christains (sic)? Tell us, Augustine "Twink Meat" Aubrey.

Response:

Looks like the gay and non-Christain (sic) Governor, Jim McGreevey likes the "twink meat". It’s OK, Little Stevie. You can keep enjoying the taste of your ‘twink meat’. Just don’t swallow the gravy, it can give you Hepatitis-C. Oh, you already knew that? Sorry…. : ) Next time rub it on the bald spot, you never know!!!!!

Response:

Boehner blocks Pelosi’s investigation resolution: Surprise! Now there’s a boner! Republican Party Chairman Sam Walls, who is married, was urged to drop his candidacy for Congress when it was found he likes to dress up -n women’s clothing. http://www.armchairsubversive.com/sam_walls7.jpg well, ok. I’ve been on record as saying that men in skirts are sexy but this isn’t what I had in mind. I was thinking something more along these lines – http://www.utilikilts.com/ get yours here http://www.armchairsubversive.com/sam_walls7.jpg

Response:

Next time rub it on the bald spot, you never know!!!!!

It worked for you Howie… right..?? Ciao’

Response:

" Next time rub it on the bald spot, you never know!!!!! It worked for you Howie… right..??" :-) Ciao’ Nah, Genie, no hair issues here. How about yourself? I notice you like wearing a hat. *Indoors*! Now ‘there’s’ a dead give away! Not to mention rude! So tell us, is it true that male patern baldness comes from the maternal grandfather? Don’t be shy, inquiring minds want to know! cheers…

Response:

BREAKING: Sherwood (R-PA:10) Settles Choking Suit After proclaiming his innocence and trying to delay his trial until after the election, mistress-choker Don Sherwood (R-PA) has settled his lawsuit. In a secret deal, Sherwood bought Cynthia Ore’s silence. According to the agreement, neither side will address this issue publicly. Secret settlements are basically an admission of guilt. Even a former Bush and Santorum staffer agrees: Also it seems Sherwood will not settle this lawsuit. If he settles you know he is guilty if he goes to court who knows the truth really no matter which way the verdict goes. Finally Ore does not want to Settle. Her Family is loaded. Congressman Sherwood has no intention of leveling with voters about his behavior (and he never did!). Somehow, the records on the night of the abuse have disappeared and Sherwood is not going to face criminal prosecution. Now, Sherwood has paid for his mistress’ silence. The only way this abuser will be held responsible for his actions is at the ballot box. Sherwood’s behavior and his voting record have put one of the reddest districts in the country in play. For the first time since Sherwood gerrymandered his district to give himself a permanent seat in Congress, he faces a real challenger. Chris Carney, a professor of International Affairs at Penn-State and a Lt. Commander in the Naval Reserves has stepped up to challenge the mistress-choker. The differences are crystal clear. Sherwood cheats on his wife and beats his mistress. Chris is a devoted husband and father of 5. Don Sherwood is a car salesman turned career politician. Chris has never run for political office. Since September 11th, Sherwood has traveled to DC to have an affair and to vote to put Congress in the middle of the Terri Schiavo case. Since September 11th, Chris has traveled from the 10th district to serve his country at the Pentagon, in Korea, and in Saudi Arabia. Sherwood has a vast personal fortune to pay off his mistress and to blow on his campaign against Chris. Chris is running a grassroots campaign and is reliant on small contributors to take on Don Sherwood. The Carney for Congress campaign needs all the help it can get in very conservative district. Democrats have a chance not only to strike into the heart of Republican territory, we also have the chance to knock a despicable excuse for a human being out of Congress. The case against Sherwood was for $5.5 million. https://secure.democracyinaction.com/dia/organizations/carney06/shop/… http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cliff-schecter/republican-sexcapades-me… This is, very simply, emblematic of the current state of the GOP, a once proud party of Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt that has devolved into an elected membership comprised of racists, criminals, self-haters and perverts. Am I exaggerating? I think not. I’ll leave the Neo-Confederates such as George Allen and the Abramoffers such as Bob Ney for another column. Let’s just talk about the latter two categories. Former Representative Ed Schrock of Virginia, who sponsored anti-gay legislation in the House, was caught in 2004 making calls to a homosexual phone-sex operation. http://rawstory.com/exclusives/byrne/schrock_resigns_gay_phone_sex_ta… He then resigned without comment much like Foley. Hate yourself much Ed? See Mayor Jim West of Spokane for a very similar story http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/223201_west06.html to the one currently bedeviling poor Mark Foley, who was still Chairing the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited children as of last week. You want to find adultery among these miscreant moralizers? Why go no further then Pennsylvania Representative Don Sherwood, who thought it wasn’t good enough to just cheat on his wife with a women in her 20s (he’s in his 60s), but decided to try and choke her for extra credit. Or Representative Steve LaTourette of Ohio, who didn’t only cheat on his wife of 28 years with an aide, but set her up with a nice little shop that lobbied a committee on which he sat (Transportation). The piles of money she made was helpful though, as it most likely helped pay his rent as she was living with him. http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2004/10/05/lobbyist/index.html Divorce you say. Ok, well here’s a math problem for you. What do you get when you add the divorces of Newt Gingrich + Rush Limbaugh + Bob Barr? A hint, you’re almost in double digits. This is today’s GOP. The family values crowd in all their glory. It is the reason I started doing a weekly segment on The Young Turks called "Republican Sexcapades" (you may be familiar with the insightful analysis of Cenk Uygur, one of The Young Turks’ hosts, on this very site). Because somebody had to point out their sexual hypocrisy on a weekly basis.

Response:

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – BREAKING: Sherwood (R-PA:10) Settles Choking Suit After proclaiming his innocence and trying to delay his trial until after the election, mistress-choker Don Sherwood (R-PA) A bit early with the ‘convictions’ there, aren’t you? has settled his lawsuit. In a secret deal, Sherwood bought Cynthia Ore’s silence. According to the agreement, neither side will address this issue publicly. Secret settlements are basically an admission of guilt. Really? Gee, that’s not what I heard when Clinton settled with Paula Jones to make her lawsuit go away.

Flip honey, I do not want to hear about Clinton any more. He is not the current President, his party isn’t in power now and I didn’t vote for him anyway. What we are talking about is who is in power now and how they claim to be a party of family values when thay are just a bunch of self serving, lying, hypcritical bastards plus a pervert or two or three. Frankly, thogh if I HAD a choice in the matter I’d rather hang out with a party of men who hit on women of age, than a party of men who hit women and hit on under age boys.

Response:

Flip honey, I do not want to hear about Clinton any more. He is not the current President,

He’s the most current Dem president. And you’re a hypocrite because whackos like you use Clinton all the time – when you think it’s to your advantage. Why is it Dems are so ashamed of Clinton? Repubs talk with pride about Reagan all the time. It’s kinda fucked there hasn’t been a decent Dem pres in over 50 years, but oh well, that’s your problem. Frankly, thogh if I HAD a choice in the matter I’d rather hang out with a party of men who hit on women of age, than a party of men who hit women and hit on under age boys.

This is the dumbest statement I’ve ever read here. You truly are a dizzy dingbat.

Response:

Flip honey, I do not want to hear about Clinton any more. He is not the current President,

He’s the most current Dem president. Sure you don’t mean ‘recent’? Put the Doritos down while you type.. : ) And you’re a hypocrite because whackos like you use Clinton all the time – when you think it’s to your advantage. Why is it Dems are so ashamed of Clinton? I’m not ashamed. He likes women! Repubs talk with pride about Reagan all the time. How about Nixon? It’s kinda fucked there hasn’t been a decent Dem pres in over 50 years, but oh well, that’s your problem. Yawn.. Frankly, thogh if I HAD a choice in the matter I’d rather hang out with a party of men who hit on women of age, than a party of men who hit women and hit on under age boys. This is the dumbest statement I’ve ever read here.

Because you like little boys? Wife beating?

Response:

Frankly, thogh if I HAD a choice in the matter I’d rather hang out with a party of men who hit on women of age, than a party of men who hit women and hit on under age boys. This is the dumbest statement I’ve ever read here. Because you like little boys? Wife beating?

Apparently. Because given the choice between one or the other, that’s what he chose.

Response:

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Flip honey, I do not want to hear about Clinton any more. He is not the current President, He’s the most current Dem president. Sure you don’t mean ‘recent’? Put the Doritos down while you type.. : )

Actually he is the most current Dem president. There is no current dem president. And you’re a hypocrite because whackos like you use Clinton all the time – when you think it’s to your advantage. Why is it Dems are so ashamed of Clinton? I’m not ashamed. He likes women!

LOL! Clinton’s legacy of failure and this is the best you can come up with. Repubs talk with pride about Reagan all the time. How about Nixon?

How about Nixon? He liked women. That means he’s a great president to you. LOL. Beaten at his own adolescent game! It’s kinda fucked there hasn’t been a decent Dem pres in over 50 years, but oh well, that’s your problem. Yawn..

Cheer up, I heard Carter ‘liked’ women. LOL Frankly, thogh if I HAD a choice in the matter I’d rather hang out with a party of men who hit on women of age, than a party of men who hit women and hit on under age boys. This is the dumbest statement I’ve ever read here. Because you like little boys? Wife beating?

Because you’re a complete idiot to think America would put the face of a child molester, Lincoln, on Mt. Rushmore. You’re equally as adolescent as Dingbat Mary. ps I felt sorry for you so I came up with a more pussified name than yours to make you feel manly. :)

Response:

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Frankly, thogh if I HAD a choice in the matter I’d rather hang out with a party of men who hit on women of age, than a party of men who hit women and hit on under age boys. This is the dumbest statement I’ve ever read here. Because you like little boys? Wife beating? Apparently. Because given the choice between one or the other, that’s what he chose.

Dingbat Mary wins another award. The whacked out whacko thinks everyone is either gay/lesbian or a child molester. Geez, makes you wonder what her life has been like….lol…actually no, that’s sad. Why don’t you post another meaningless 500 line cut and paste job from some encyclopedia no one will read so you think you will have outsmarted someone….

Response:

know what Mr. Giggle News? Nothing you say has any effect on me. You don’t even exist.

Response:

The magnitude of an electric current is defined as the time derivative of electric charge. Conventional current was defined early in the history of electrical science as a flow of positive charge. In solid metals, like wires, the positive charges are immobile, and only the negatively charged electrons flow in the direction opposite conventional current, but this is not the case in most non-metallic conductors. In other materials, charged particles flow in both directions at the same time. Current density is a measure of the density of electrical current. It is defined as a vector whose magnitude is the electric current per cross-sectional area. In SI unit, the current density is measured in amperes per square meter.

Response:

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Flip honey, I do not want to hear about Clinton any more. He is not the current President, He’s the most current Dem president. Sure you don’t mean ‘recent’? Put the Doritos down while you type.. : ) Actually he is the most current Dem president. There is no current dem president.

He isn’t??? My gawd, I think I found an internet genius!! And you’re a hypocrite because whackos like you use Clinton all the time – when you think it’s to your advantage. Why is it Dems are so ashamed of Clinton? I’m not ashamed. He likes women! LOL! Clinton’s legacy of failure and this is the best you can come up with.

Failure? Are you sure your not talking about your marriage? : ) Repubs talk with pride about Reagan all the time. How about Nixon? How about Nixon? He liked women. That means he’s a great president to you. LOL. Beaten at his own adolescent game!

You, poor, illiterate shell of a boy. I didn’t say Clinton was a ‘great’ president, I said I wasn’t ‘ashamed’ of him. You’re harboring quite a bit of shame, aren’t you? It’s kinda fucked there hasn’t been a decent Dem pres in over 50 years, but oh well, that’s your problem. Yawn.. Cheer up, I heard Carter ‘liked’ women. LOL

He ‘lusted’ for them, he admits. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Frankly, thogh if I HAD a choice in the matter I’d rather hang out with a party of men who hit on women of age, than a party of men who hit women and hit on under age boys. This is the dumbest statement I’ve ever read here. Because you like little boys? Wife beating? Because you’re a complete idiot to think America would put the face of a child molester, Lincoln, on Mt. Rushmore. You’re equally as adolescent as Dingbat Mary. ps I felt sorry for you so I came up with a more pussified name than yours to make you feel manly. :)

Having a full head of hair, being able to eat wheat, and not having been given a sexually transmitted disease by a cheating wife makes me feel just fine, and you?? : ) Do you even have an idea who the guy was that contributed the disease to you? Does SHE?? cheers…

Response:

I think we got to him. He’s coming apart at the seams. "if someone is coming apart at the seams, they are feeling extremely upset " Dee Irwin composition, this guy certainly new how to write a soul song. The much under-rated vocal prowess of Andy Butler steadily builds the atmosphere to a crescendo of emotion. A slower starter but grabs you by the end, & insists on a respin.. http://…/esmil.php?catno=47995&artist=BUTLER__ANDY&title=COMING_APA…"compact"

Response:

So, is the remaining choice that you prefer to hang out with men who hit on men of age? Well, if that’s your style, make sure it’s none of our business by not trying to broadcast it all over the place, ok? Some folks have weak stomachs.

Response:

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Frankly, I’d rather have neither. understood, however "currently" we are presented with these two choices. It’s as if there’s some kind of secret Republican Inappropriate Appointment Committee. Let’s put the closeted cruiser in charge of gay bashing! Head of the sex offender watchdog committee is a borderline sex offender? Check. Or make that, write him a check! http://blogs.nydailynews.com/dailypolitics/archives/2006/09/reynolds_… Today’s Republicans don’t believe in accountability. Foxes in the henhouse is the rule, rather than the exception. Five-and-a-half years, and they’re drunk with power. It’s a tragic corruption of the party’s cause. And they have no one to blame but themselves. They run all the branches, a majority of the governorships, and have the mouthpieces of talk radio and the biggest cable news outfit to distribute their talking points. Not to mention an enfeebled and confused Democratic party to dominate. When it rains in politics, it pours, and the Foley scandal is spilling quickly over onto the House Republican Leadership — particularly Tom Reynolds, the Erie County-based chairman of the National Republican Campaign Committee who faces his own, serious, challenge from a protectionist maverick Democrat, Jack Davis. Reynolds is now in something approaching open war with the Speaker of the House amid recriminations over who know what when. (Josh Marshall has running, detailed, partisan-but-fair coverage.) In that context, a reader emails a piece of information that strikes me as very bad news for Reynolds: He may have given Foley money after he was told of the allegations. Reynolds’s personal PAC, TOMPAC, wrote Foley a check for $5,000 on May 10, 2006. (You can see the filing here.) http://blogs.nydailynews.com/dailypolitics/archives/documents/reynold… According to the AP, Reynolds was told of the allegations against Foley "sometime this spring." I put in a request to NRCC spokesman Carl Forti for a more precise date. accepted an unusually large contribution of $100,000 from Foley. Hard to imagine something of that size just slipping past the chairman. May. http://blogs.nydailynews.com/dailypolitics/archives/2006/10/reynolds_… http://www.rollcall.com/issues/1_1/breakingnews/15260-1.html

Notice too that our military is on the verge of protesting the illegal occupation of Iraq and about to mutiny. I personally hope they give Duhbya a war crimes tribunal along with the former Tricky Dicky nutjob warmongering war profiteers and war criminals. Exit…Earth. BAM! Geenie "the hole" Nobrainski should pray they don’t lynch him while they’re at it. ha ha hah ahhhhhaaaaa

Response:

Creepy. If you spot one, give him technical advice sure to fry him before the law has to bother at public expense. It’ll do the sick bastard a favor and save children, families and the rest of us from having to stomach their illness. Same goes for gun-toting school and workplace invading maniacs.

Response:

been very sick

admin — Fri, 22 Sep 2006 00:00:00 +0000

Question:

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi ASAPM. I miss you guys. I haven’t been posting. Haven’t been able, and probably won’t for awhile. I was waiting to find out what I had before I posted. I contracted a virus called Cytomegalovirus. From what I understand most people get it and develop antibodies and don’t ever go symptomatic, but I have. I think I got mine and some other peoples’ symptoms is what I think. You can Wikipedia it. Basically, It has given me mono and hepatitis at the same time. I’ve also got the foot drop, so walking has been extremely hard. That’s also complicated because I’ve got incredible edema in my feet and ankles and legs. I am supposed to get a diuretic called in for me today. I also have pneumonia. It is a virus, and I am getting better and my prognosis is that it’s going to go away. I’m sitting here posting, so that proves I’m better. I’ve just been very ill, my friends. Some of you knew it. Now you all do. I’ll be back when I’m back. I’m being selfish now and just taking care of me, that’s all my energy will allow. I wanted you all to be aware of my situation, but know that I feel better. Healing just seems to be a bit of a slow process. Nobody have any catastophies while I’m sick. Not allowed. Love you all dearly, Sally

Sally, I’m so glad you found out what you have and that it’s being treated. I was really worried. You take care of yourself and don’t think you’re being selfish for doing it. After all, you can’t really help or support anyone else if you’re not operating at 100%, in any situation (though I’ve done it, as we all have . (((((((((((((((((((Sally)))))))))))))))))))) Love, Dawn — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

Response:

((((((Sally)))))) Get lots of rest and update when you are up to it… smiles, Elise

– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

Response:

Sending lots of get-well hugs your way, Sally! I’m so glad to hear that you finally know *what* it is… Hopefully, each day will bring improvement and you’ll soon feel much better! Best wishes! MikeH

. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

Response:

Lordy, You don’t do things by halves. Rest up. love Meryl – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi ASAPM. I miss you guys. I haven’t been posting. Haven’t been able, and probably won’t for awhile. I was waiting to find out what I had before I posted. I contracted a virus called Cytomegalovirus. From what I understand most people get it and develop antibodies and don’t ever go symptomatic, but I have. I think I got mine and some other peoples’ symptoms is what I think. You can Wikipedia it. Basically, It has given me mono and hepatitis at the same time. I’ve also got the foot drop, so walking has been extremely hard. That’s also complicated because I’ve got incredible edema in my feet and ankles and legs. I am supposed to get a diuretic called in for me today. I also have pneumonia. It is a virus, and I am getting better and my prognosis is that it’s going to go away. I’m sitting here posting, so that proves I’m better. I’ve just been very ill, my friends. Some of you knew it. Now you all do. I’ll be back when I’m back. I’m being selfish now and just taking care of me, that’s all my energy will allow. I wanted you all to be aware of my situation, but know that I feel better. Healing just seems to be a bit of a slow process. Nobody have any catastophies while I’m sick. Not allowed. Love you all dearly, Sally

– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

Response:

Hi ASAPM. I miss you guys. I haven’t been posting. Haven’t been able, and probably won’t for awhile. I was waiting to find out what I had before I posted. I contracted a virus called Cytomegalovirus. From what I understand most people get it and develop antibodies and don’t ever go symptomatic, but I have. I think I got mine and some other peoples’ symptoms is what I think. You can Wikipedia it. Basically, It has given me mono and hepatitis at the same time. I’ve also got the foot drop, so walking has been extremely hard. That’s also complicated because I’ve got incredible edema in my feet and ankles and legs. I am supposed to get a diuretic called in for me today. I also have pneumonia. It is a virus, and I am getting better and my prognosis is that it’s going to go away. I’m sitting here posting, so that proves I’m better. I’ve just been very ill, my friends. Some of you knew it. Now you all do. I’ll be back when I’m back. I’m being selfish now and just taking care of me, that’s all my energy will allow. I wanted you all to be aware of my situation, but know that I feel better. Healing just seems to be a bit of a slow process. Nobody have any catastophies while I’m sick. Not allowed. Love you all dearly, Sally — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

Response:

Hi Sally, I’m sorry to hear that your ill. I also have the same virus, along with Epstein Barr Virus. I know how tired it can make you. Take good care of yourself (((((Sally))))) Love Cathy

– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

Response:

Hi ASAPM. I miss you guys…..

You are missed here too Sally, but just concentrate on getting better and believe me when I say that you are not being selfish. You are being very sensible and taking care of yourself. Caz — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

Response:

I am so sorry sweetie! You just take care of yourself. Keep us posted only when you can. I sure hope you feel better real soon. {{{{{{{Sally}}}}}}} Love, Di xxx

– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

Response:

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi ASAPM. I miss you guys. I haven’t been posting. Haven’t been able, and probably won’t for awhile. I was waiting to find out what I had before I posted. I contracted a virus called Cytomegalovirus. From what I understand most people get it and develop antibodies and don’t ever go symptomatic, but I have. I think I got mine and some other peoples’ symptoms is what I think. You can Wikipedia it. Basically, It has given me mono and hepatitis at the same time. I’ve also got the foot drop, so walking has been extremely hard. That’s also complicated because I’ve got incredible edema in my feet and ankles and legs. I am supposed to get a diuretic called in for me today. I also have pneumonia. It is a virus, and I am getting better and my prognosis is that it’s going to go away. I’m sitting here posting, so that proves I’m better. I’ve just been very ill, my friends. Some of you knew it. Now you all do. I’ll be back when I’m back. I’m being selfish now and just taking care of me, that’s all my energy will allow. I wanted you all to be aware of my situation, but know that I feel better. Healing just seems to be a bit of a slow process. Nobody have any catastophies while I’m sick. Not allowed.

Wow Sally. Please take good care of yourself. We will miss you until you feel better, but that’s better than pushing yourself too much and taking longer to heal. (((Sally))) Tony — — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

Response:

Sweetie, I’m so glad you’re getting better, and it will be gone soon. Call me when you need company. Pamper yourself. Love you just as dearly, Deirdre — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

Response:

I hope it all clears up for you Sally. Don’t let your foot drop ;^) — Doug

– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

Response:

highanxiety schreef: Hi ASAPM. I miss you guys. I haven’t been posting. Haven’t been able, and probably won’t for awhile. I was waiting to find out what I had before I posted.

Dear Sally, Please take good care of *you*! I’m happy that the prognosis is so good, that must be quite a relief. I hope it won’t take too much time but in the meantime I am sending *good vibes* (whatever that may be across the Atlantic. They never fail! ((((Sally))) Philip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I contracted a virus called Cytomegalovirus. From what I understand most people get it and develop antibodies and don’t ever go symptomatic, but I have. I think I got mine and some other peoples’ symptoms is what I think. You can Wikipedia it. Basically, It has given me mono and hepatitis at the same time. I’ve also got the foot drop, so walking has been extremely hard. That’s also complicated because I’ve got incredible edema in my feet and ankles and legs. I am supposed to get a diuretic called in for me today. I also have pneumonia. It is a virus, and I am getting better and my prognosis is that it’s going to go away. I’m sitting here posting, so that proves I’m better. I’ve just been very ill, my friends. Some of you knew it. Now you all do. I’ll be back when I’m back. I’m being selfish now and just taking care of me, that’s all my energy will allow. I wanted you all to be aware of my situation, but know that I feel better. Healing just seems to be a bit of a slow process. Nobody have any catastophies while I’m sick. Not allowed. Love you all dearly, Sally

– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

Response:

that sounds really lousy! sorry to hear. hope you get well soon!! -z-

– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

Response:

follow up to previous post

admin — Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:00:00 +0000

Question:

Hi! Thanks to everyone for being so accepting and and BIG THANK YOU to Tanya for being so supportive. I have been out ot town for a while but before going found out from the doc that all my blood tests were negative for the Hep a, b and c from the rape!!!!! Praise the Lord. He wants me to give the clonzapam alittle more time to work so I’m gonna stay on them for now. He thinks that so many years of being on xanax and then changing may take some time for my body to adjust. He’s not my reg doc. She’s out of town and I can’t wait for her to get back. Anyway, thanks for being here guys. I really don’t have anyone to talk to that understands. Peace, Sherryl

Response:

Hi Sherryl, didn’t read your previous post so don’t know the full story. When I first started medication it was on Xanax and my doctor switched me to clonazepam. It took a while for me to get used to it and I hadn’t been on Xanax for that long. It has helped reduce my anxiety as it stays in my system longer but YMMV. Vanessa

Response:

Hey there Sherryl, I was on Xanax for a lonnnnng time, and was switched to Klonopin because I became habituated to the Xanax, so it lost its’ effectiveness. It was hell, changing, since I had been on Xanax for so long….but like Vanessa, I’m much better off now because the half-life of Klonopin is about 30 hrs. as opposed to Xanax’s 4 hrs. or so. There are many people who can take Xanax and never get habituated, and never need an increase in dose. I just didn’t happen to be one of them. Geeesh, I can relate to you on the hepatitis scare. I had a "lover" who did something to me that I didn’t agree with, and it was unprotected. I guess I’ve never been able to actually call it rape. I threw him out, and never saw him again, but then started worrying about HIV and hepatitis. I had no idea that hepatitis, I can’t remember which one, is incurable. My shrink was much more responsible than my regular doctor, and called her and actually bitched her out because she hadn’t taken the prophylactic measures that they can take. (a med that you can give the next day if someone fears contact with HIV) I didn’t have hepatitis, but I sweated out the tests for HIV for a year, and it felt like I had this possible death sentence hanging over my head. I was very depressed. I never contracted it, so I can imagine how happy you are to find out that you’re not infected. I’m very, very happy for you. Take care, Sharon

Response:

Hi! Thanks to everyone for being so accepting and and BIG THANK YOU to Tanya for being so supportive.

wow ! yer welcome… and you are much appreciated, as well. I have been out ot town for a while but before going found out from the doc that all my blood tests were negative for the Hep a, b and c from the rape!!!!! Praise the Lord.

i wasn’t aware of that situation. now that’s a tough one. and congrats on your tests ! waiting on those test results are murder, i’m tested every 6 months and have been for 16 years due to my business, and i still stress out.. and no phone results, ya gotta go in there now… which is even MORE frustrating. Anyway, thanks for being here guys. I really don’t have anyone to talk to that understands.

yer not leavin’ the group, are you???? ~tanya

Response:

Dentist Update

admin — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 00:00:00 +0000

Question:

I finally got in touch with my daughter to ask questions on Hep c and treatment. She stated that most people are not aware they have Hep or any other communicable disease. It is a courtesy to let the Dr. know but not necessary. In some instances by letting the Dr. know treatment could be different for the patients health. The dentists are trained to take proper precautions with ALL patients. She runs tests on her equipment and the test strips are sent to the local university to make sure that all of her equipment is properly sterilized. Dentist may not charge anything more than what they charge non hep clients. To do so is opening themselves to a discrimination law suit. Refusing treatment is a no no as well and you can sue. This is true in Canada and the USA. Mags

Response:

"mags" wrote in message

news:1136037627.866649.67440@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com… >I finally got in touch with my daughter to ask questions on Hep c and > treatment. She stated that most people are not aware they have Hep or > any other communicable disease. It is a courtesy to let the Dr. know > but not necessary. In some instances by letting the Dr. know treatment > could be different for the patients health. The dentists are trained > to take proper precautions with ALL patients. She runs tests on her > equipment and the test strips are sent to the local university to make > sure that all of her equipment is properly sterilized. Dentist may not > charge anything more than what they charge non hep clients. To do so > is opening themselves to a discrimination law suit. Refusing treatment > is a no no as well and you can sue. This is true in Canada and the > USA. > Mags

Good job Mags! dort

Response:

going in the right direction ….

admin — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 00:00:00 +0000

Question:

In article <9hjuf.20469$9e.11…@tornado.texas.rr.com>, dwil…@austin.rr.com says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->"Frank" wrote in message >news:eIKdnfNr5txELyTeRVn-vA@comcast.com… >> In article <8Nmtf.14980$g_6.3…@tornado.texas.rr.com>, >> dwil…@austin.rr.com says… >>>"Stretch" wrote in message >>>news:11rbrt1hpk34f47@corp.supernews.com… >>>> mags wrote: >>>>> Should be food for your soul Stretch. Your doing well. >>>>> Mags >>>> Does make it a little easier as I prepare for my Friday ritual … >>>> Thanks all. >>>Yeah I bet it does, I haven’t gotten any vl numbers yet so I just have to >>>make use of screaming "Die! Die! Die! you little nasties!" as I inject. I >>>am >>>hoping it motivates the peginterferon to get in there and kick some ass! >>>dort >> I hope you don’t live in an apartment, dort! ;} >Frank, would you believe I do live in an apt. with 8 cats and a room mate >the yells obscenities while he does whatever he does on that playstation >thing. We don’t know any of our neighbors, wonder why? >dort

LOL! I’ll bet your neighbors recently armed themselves and sit there in the dark shaking violently.

Response:

In article <8Nmtf.14980$g_6.3…@tornado.texas.rr.com>, dwil…@austin.rr.com says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->"Stretch" wrote in message >news:11rbrt1hpk34f47@corp.supernews.com… >> mags wrote: >>> Should be food for your soul Stretch. Your doing well. >>> Mags >> Does make it a little easier as I prepare for my Friday ritual … >> Thanks all. >Yeah I bet it does, I haven’t gotten any vl numbers yet so I just have to >make use of screaming "Die! Die! Die! you little nasties!" as I inject. I am >hoping it motivates the peginterferon to get in there and kick some ass! >dort

I hope you don’t live in an apartment, dort! ;}

Response:

In article <1136036183.632278.79…@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, Chill…@rogers.com says… >Nasties are just to nice – bastards is more appropriate don’t you >think? >Mags

I call them little mofos.

Response:

"Frank" wrote in message

news:eIKdnfNr5txELyTeRVn-vA@comcast.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article <8Nmtf.14980$g_6.3…@tornado.texas.rr.com>, > dwil…@austin.rr.com says… >>"Stretch" wrote in message >>news:11rbrt1hpk34f47@corp.supernews.com… >>> mags wrote: >>>> Should be food for your soul Stretch. Your doing well. >>>> Mags >>> Does make it a little easier as I prepare for my Friday ritual … >>> Thanks all. >>Yeah I bet it does, I haven’t gotten any vl numbers yet so I just have to >>make use of screaming "Die! Die! Die! you little nasties!" as I inject. I >>am >>hoping it motivates the peginterferon to get in there and kick some ass! >>dort > I hope you don’t live in an apartment, dort! ;}

Frank, would you believe I do live in an apt. with 8 cats and a room mate the yells obscenities while he does whatever he does on that playstation thing. We don’t know any of our neighbors, wonder why? dort

Response:

In article <3014-43B6ACD2-…@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>, elmoemer…@webtv.net says… >Re: going in the right direction …. >Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Dec 31, 2005, 1:27am (CST+7) >From: nots…@nuncaspam.eduorg (Michael=A0Cody) >Gordo Mondragon wrote: >Yep. What genotype are you? >Kinda reminds of the days when people said "What sign are you, a Libra?" >Cody >//////////// >Type 1a’s have more ‘class’. ahahahahaha!!

I thought they were "certifiable"?

Response:

Nasties are just to nice – bastards is more appropriate don’t you think? Mags

Response:

I guess so, Stretch! Way to go!! Keep doing what you’re doing. elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

Response:

Re: going in the right direction …. Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Dec 31, 2005, 1:27am (CST+7) From: nots…@nuncaspam.eduorg (Michael

Lost & alone

admin — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 00:00:00 +0000

Question:

David: I’m feel tremendously for your current state. I’ve been there, it’s not pretty. First and foremost Dave, don’t be hard on yourself. "feeling like you want to die" doesn’t make you a low life..It makes you somebody who’s at the end of their rope, at the moment. Take all the advice given here, make sure to keep eating and drinking right..Get lots of sleep and rest. Watch movies that make you feel good. Above all trust God to see you through. It ain’t over till it’s over David. And it aint over. Paul G.

Response:

David- Well from someone who has done the 48 weeks of the peg/riba chemo, I would say your right about in the groove for the side affects. What you are saying is about how I felt, like pure shit. I lasted 12 weeks before I quit working. Get on some anti-depressants if your not already, or have the dose adjusted. Other side affects like nausea, headaches, can’t sleep, there are meds to take care of that. I really leaned on the Hydrocodone, my headaches were blinding at times, but never had any problem when I stopped using those. By the end of treatment I was real tired of swallowing any kind of pills. I smoked some of that good stinky skunk weed, that helped too. And of course your doing the right thing posting how you feel. Good to get things off of your chest. Take it easy, the day will come when it will be over and you can do it. Just try to get through today and worry about tomorrow, er, well tomorrow. Hang in there, been there and know how your feeling. Russ "David" wrote in message

news:3oftf.4583$nA2.2966@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I have been reading posts for over a year now and have posted a couple of > times. I’m sorry to post this this way but I feel like there is no one to > talk to and the way I am feeling right now is scary. Today will be shot > 39 > and for the most part I have been very lucky as far as side effects go. I > think the depression is really getting me now. I can’t function at all. I > can’t do anything but stay in bed. I have missed more work in the last > two > weeks than over the rest of the rx Today is the worst I am so alone and > scared. Suicide has even crossed my mind which scared the hell out of me > that won’t happen but the fact that I thought about it scares the shit out > me why would that even be a thought? This has got me so freaked out and > confused I can’t see straight. So if this is hard to read I apologize > now. > Of course none of my Dr. are available today so there is no one to talk to > so I thought maybe writing this could help me clear my head some. It is > taking everything in my power to do this simple task.I’ve done the praying > and the meditating and they don’t seem to help much. So if anyone has any > suggestions feel free to give me any suggestions > thanks David

Response:

Right on, man!!! Thanks for posting words of encouragement…..good to ’see’ you! elmo //////////// VAUGHNK…@hawaii.rr.com (da

Hepper Jokes

admin — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 00:00:00 +0000

Question:

Re: Elmo’s weekend Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sat, Dec 31, 2005, 12:31pm (CST-2) From: waterspi…@moonlight.net (Waterspider) "Gordo Mondragon" wrote in message

news:ga_mondragon-71FC58.06580931122005@news-rdr-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com… In article <11rc1tcp3lhq…@corp.supernews.com>, "Waterspider" wrote:

[...] I just threw up in my mouth, a little. Glad I could add a little excitement to your day /////////// Whadja have for supper? elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

Response:

Re: Hepper Jokes Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Sun, Jan 1, 2006, 4:49am (CST+1) From: hu…@webtv.net (Bri

question on 6 month post TX

admin — Thu, 29 Dec 2005 00:00:00 +0000

Question:

In article <14406-43B40443…@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net>, elmoemer…@webtv.net says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Re: question on 6 month post TX >Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 9:22am From: >HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) >In article <1135863974.603396.264…@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, >Chill…@rogers.com says… >Hi Everyone. I was at my appt. yesterday and I had a question for the >hep nurse. I am not sure I got a straight answer. I know I will get one >here. How many people tested negative for the virus from week 12, 24, 48 >to have the virus come back to life 6 months past the treatment. >According to my BCLD, about 25% show no response after 12 weeks and are >temporarily taken off medication. >I asked her this question because as you know I am in a study and the >nurse told me that everyone is responding to treatment but none have >completed the program. If everyone is responding to treatment then who >are the 40 percent who don’t? >Mags >thanks for the spellchecker link! >You can show SVR after 48 weeks but 6 months thereafter, test positive >again for HCV. That is the 40% they’re speaking of, mags. >//////////// >Sorry, Frank, but you’re incorrect. The 40% I believe Mags is referring >to are the 40% that don’t achieve SVR with the current tx with Peg and >riba. If you’re undetectable by 12 weeks, I think the SVR rate becomes >near 90%. >elmo

I stand corrected. Thanks elmo.

Response:

In article <14406-43B40443…@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net>, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text - elmoemer…@webtv.net wrote: > Re: question on 6 month post TX > Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 9:22am From: > HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) > In article <1135863974.603396.264…@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, > Chill…@rogers.com says… > Hi Everyone. I was at my appt. yesterday and I had a question for the > hep nurse. I am not sure I got a straight answer. I know I will get one > here. How many people tested negative for the virus from week 12, 24, 48 > to have the virus come back to life 6 months past the treatment. > According to my BCLD, about 25% show no response after 12 weeks and are > temporarily taken off medication. > I asked her this question because as you know I am in a study and the > nurse told me that everyone is responding to treatment but none have > completed the program. If everyone is responding to treatment then who > are the 40 percent who don’t? > Mags > thanks for the spellchecker link! > You can show SVR after 48 weeks but 6 months thereafter, test positive > again for HCV. That is the 40% they’re speaking of, mags. > //////////// > Sorry, Frank, but you’re incorrect. The 40% I believe Mags is referring > to are the 40% that don’t achieve SVR with the current tx with Peg and > riba. If you’re undetectable by 12 weeks, I think the SVR rate becomes > near 90%. > elmo

Here: http://www.hivandhepatitis.com/2005icr/easl/docs/041805_b.html Using Peg-IFN and Riba, in a study of non-responders and relapsers, 61% of that group who had a viral load of 0 at week 12 achieved SVR. That number is higher for people who were on their first round of treatment. Elmo – the 90% figure maybe comes from the number for people who don’t respond at 12 weeks, it’s 98% chance of the the treatment _not_ working. G

Response:

> In article <1135863974.603396.264…@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, > Chill…@rogers.com says…

[..] > >I asked her this question because as you know I am in a study and the > >nurse told me that everyone is responding to treatment but none have > >completed the program. If everyone is responding to treatment then who > >are the 40 percent who don’t?

You’re on a new drug, no? If everyone is responding to treatment early on then that – with the old drugs – is associated with a higher rate of SVR. What they hope is that the SVR rate with the new drug will be at least as good if not better based on the same early response. It’s as good as the news you could have at this point could be, I think. G

Response:

Re: question on 6 month post TX Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 10:02am From: HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) In article <14406-43B40443…@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net>, elmoemer…@webtv.net says… Re: question on 6 month post TX Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 9:22am From: HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) In article <1135863974.603396.264…@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Chill…@rogers.com says… Hi Everyone. I was at my appt. yesterday and I had a question for the hep nurse. I am not sure I got a straight answer. I know I will get one here. How many people tested negative for the virus from week 12, 24, 48 to have the virus come back to life 6 months past the treatment. According to my BCLD, about 25% show no response after 12 weeks and are temporarily taken off medication. I asked her this question because as you know I am in a study and the nurse told me that everyone is responding to treatment but none have completed the program. If everyone is responding to treatment then who are the 40 percent who don’t? Mags thanks for the spellchecker link! You can show SVR after 48 weeks but 6 months thereafter, test positive again for HCV. That is the 40% they’re speaking of, mags. //////////// Sorry, Frank, but you’re incorrect. The 40% I believe Mags is referring to are the 40% that don’t achieve SVR with the current tx with Peg and riba. If you’re undetectable by 12 weeks, I think the SVR rate becomes near 90%. elmo I stand corrected. Thanks elmo. /////// yep! Now let’s get back to crepitating. :-) elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

Response:

In article <14405-43B40B2E…@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net>, elmoemer…@webtv.net says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Re: question on 6 month post TX >Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 10:02am From: >HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) >In article <14406-43B40443…@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net>, >elmoemer…@webtv.net says… >Re: question on 6 month post TX >Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 9:22am From: >HangininTh…@verizon.com (Frank) >In article <1135863974.603396.264…@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, >Chill…@rogers.com says… >Hi Everyone. I was at my appt. yesterday and I had a question for the >hep nurse. I am not sure I got a straight answer. I know I will get one >here. How many people tested negative for the virus from week 12, 24, 48 >to have the virus come back to life 6 months past the treatment. >According to my BCLD, about 25% show no response after 12 weeks and are >temporarily taken off medication. >I asked her this question because as you know I am in a study and the >nurse told me that everyone is responding to treatment but none have >completed the program. If everyone is responding to treatment then who >are the 40 percent who don’t? >Mags >thanks for the spellchecker link! >You can show SVR after 48 weeks but 6 months thereafter, test positive >again for HCV. That is the 40% they’re speaking of, mags. >//////////// >Sorry, Frank, but you’re incorrect. The 40% I believe Mags is referring >to are the 40% that don’t achieve SVR with the current tx with Peg and >riba. If you’re undetectable by 12 weeks, I think the SVR rate becomes >near 90%. >elmo >I stand corrected. Thanks elmo. >/////// >yep! Now let’s get back to crepitating. :-) >elmo

I farted and it popped like Bazooka bubble gum. Does that count. ;}

Response:

Re: question on 6 month post TX Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 4:20pm (CST+6) From: ga_mondra…@yahoo.com (Gordo

Humor

admin — Wed, 28 Dec 2005 00:00:00 +0000

Question:

Gordo wrote: > In the ASH-C tradition of orifice humor, I present this clip from Sarah > Silverman [...]

More than funny, she’s really sexy, isn’t she? Uh… Ooops…well, maybe not to you Anyway the follwing is from an interview to her by Sports Hollywood: SportsHollywood: Which do you consider yourself first: Actress, comedienne, writer, basketball player, or Hollywood Square? SILVERMAN: Fart Machine. uhahahah, great girl. Cheers, jeeb.

Response:

I sent it to my work address since I can’t view it on this webtv thingamajig. Orifice humor, eh? elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

Response:

SportsHollywood: Which do you consider yourself first: Actress, comedienne, writer, basketball player, or Hollywood Square? SILVERMAN: Fart Machine. uhahahah, great girl. Cheers, jeeb. //////////// My soul mate! How do I contact her? elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

Response:

In article <1135863272.333291.189…@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "ghibelno" wrote: > Gordo wrote: > > In the ASH-C tradition of orifice humor, I present this clip from Sarah > > Silverman [...] > More than funny, she’s really sexy, isn’t she? > Uh… Ooops…well, maybe not to you

I can appreciate sexy. This combo works for me: http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2005_Sarah_Silverman:_Jesus_Is_Magic/… _sarah_silverman_jesus_is_magic_premiere_019.jpg as does this: http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2005_Sarah_Silverman:_Jesus_Is_Magic/… _sarah_silverman_jesus_is_magic_premiere_020.jpg G

Response:

In article <14405-43B3EFB5…@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net>, elmoemer…@webtv.net wrote: > SportsHollywood: Which do you consider yourself first: Actress, > comedienne, writer, basketball player, or Hollywood Square? > SILVERMAN: Fart Machine. > > uhahahah, great girl. > Cheers, > jeeb. > //////////// > My soul mate! How do I contact her?

She’s got a boyfriend, I’m pretty sure.

Response:

Re: Humor Group: alt.support.hepatitis-c Date: Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 4:00pm (CST+6) From: ga_mondra…@yahoo.com (Gordo

Dentists

admin — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 00:00:00 +0000

Question:

Yeah, I made the mistake of telling my dentist too. He made a major production out of it, called my BCLD and wanted the entire history. I got the impression he was descriminating against me and I told him so. He said he wasn’t but that his hygienist had a problem with cleaning my teeth and that he wouldn’t make her. That’s the last time I layed eyes on that fuckstick. elmo ///////////// Ya know Elmo, I related that story to my BCLD. She told me not to say I had hep-c to any doctor or dentist. According to her, if the persons in question don’t use the proper safety gear it’s their problem. Personally, I would feel too guilty not to say anything. — Shawn (use the "reply feature on your browser to send a private reply via E-Mail.) wrote in message

news:14598-43B159E0-167@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net… Well…….if they don’t use all that extra safety equipment ALL the time, then they’re putting themselves and their patients at risk for hcv. Shawn, you just happened to be the guy that admitted you had hcv. What about all the infected people who don’t know they’ve got it and therefore don’t tell the dentist? A smart dentist should assume that everyone who walks thru his door is a risk for hcv and other blood-borne illnesses. They should use the same precautions for every patient, whether there is documented hcv or not. elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

Response:

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Maitake_man wrote: > "Lu Tze" wrote in message > news:dorib6$oge$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com.. >>It may well be that the medical profession over here are over cautious but >>I had 4 teeth which were troublesome, indeed I could partially rotate them >>in their socket, I spent close to a year waiting for them to be extracted >>which they would not do at the time as my platelets were only around >>33,000 (poor clotting). I removed two of them myself however (no bleeding) >>and eventually had the other 2 removed once my platelets had climbed back >>to around 100,000. As I say, over cautious?, things are probably different >>over the pond. > Ah..see there, I didn’t know you were in Utah. > But really…that is the Bitch of the whole situation, if the pain is > killing someone…then there should be no question or wait. As it’s already > been mentioned here, there really isn’t anyway to know except the honor > system. I’m really sorry you had to go through that. it just doesn’t seem > right. No matter what country. BTW, what part of Asia? I married into > Cantonese once (long time ago…) Nice to meet you, Lu. > den >>– >>Lu Tze >>Whale Oil Beef Hooked.

I’m sitting here with a huge smile on my face. The closest I have ever been to an Asian or Occidental country is the chinese restaurants in the local town. I complete surveys on a regular basis for the local authority and they too have difficulty with the Lu Tze issue. I proclaim myself as caucasian european male and they are buggered. I get calls from various departments within the authority querying my nationality as Lu Tze clearly does not fit the profile for white european. The only trait I have in common with our Asian cousins is my stature as a short arsed welshman. — Lu Tze Whale Oil Beef Hooked.

Response:

Yeah, I see what you are saying. But the discrimination in my case was not because I was in TX, because I wasn’t. It was merely because I checked the box. Are you kidding about OHSA? ~~den "dortski" wrote in message~~

news:e2gsf.9972$tO4.4785@tornado.texas.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "anonymousone" wrote in message > news:1135638153.910752.203460@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com… >> Anybody experienced any trouble getting treatment from a dentist after >> you told them you had hep C ? > For those who have had trouble with dentist after informing them of HCV > infection, be glad, they did you a favor. You could report them to the > local state board. But consider yourself lucky not being treated by an > obvious ignorant office the obviously does not follow universal > precautions set by OSHA. > The reason most dentist will not do invasive procedures while on treatment > is because the blood clotting factor is compromised. It’s the same for > folks on blood thinners. It would be very difficult to control the > bleeding, which can lead to serious problems. Most literature I’ve read > recommends getting all dental work and such taken care of before starting > treatment. Hope this helps! > dort

Response:

just had 23 teeth pulled (2 days of surgery) at a local dentist. Told him about the Hep, and they were only worried that some of my meds might cause bleeding. Had to get a note from primary doc at the VA. No big deal "anonymousone" wrote in message

news:1135638153.910752.203460@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Anybody experienced any trouble getting treatment from a dentist after > you told them you had hep C ?

Response:

In article <1135747881.136907.238…@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "anonymousone" wrote:

[...] > I went to the dentist this morning and I told them I had hep C. No > problem. No extra charge or anything. Personally, I dont think it would > be right to not tell them. Sure they should always use precautions but > they can let their guard down. If you warn them they can excercize due > caution. We owe it to them.

If a dentist is basing how they sterilize their equipment based on what diseases their patients tell them they have, then beyond worrying someone else getting your hep C you should also worry about YOU getting HIV or Hep B from their unclean tools. G

Response:

"Lu Tze" wrote in message

news:dorib6$oge$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com.. > It may well be that the medical profession over here are over cautious but > I had 4 teeth which were troublesome, indeed I could partially rotate them > in their socket, I spent close to a year waiting for them to be extracted > which they would not do at the time as my platelets were only around > 33,000 (poor clotting). I removed two of them myself however (no bleeding) > and eventually had the other 2 removed once my platelets had climbed back > to around 100,000. As I say, over cautious?, things are probably different > over the pond.

Ah..see there, I didn’t know you were in Utah. But really…that is the Bitch of the whole situation, if the pain is killing someone…then there should be no question or wait. As it’s already been mentioned here, there really isn’t anyway to know except the honor system. I’m really sorry you had to go through that. it just doesn’t seem right. No matter what country. BTW, what part of Asia? I married into Cantonese once (long time ago…) Nice to meet you, Lu. den – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> — > Lu Tze > Whale Oil Beef Hooked.

Response:

In hindsight, I probably shouldn’t have said anything to the first Dentist, but they were funky and probably over-priced. Now my kid’s Dentist I felt comfortable with and kind of knew there would be no problem. (and he told me I can use the centrifugal in his basement anytime I want!) Maybe…it’s just a matter of using our own judgment…if they don’t want to work on us then maybe they lose, we win? I really agree with Elmo’s take on this. It’s what they went to school for. den – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Shawn" wrote in message news:t1psf.229$3Y3.104@trnddc02… > Ya know Elmo, I related that story to my BCLD. She told me not to say I > had hep-c to any doctor or dentist. According to her, if the persons in > question don’t use the proper safety gear it’s their problem. Personally, > I would feel too guilty not to say anything. > — > Shawn > (use the "reply feature on your browser to send a private reply via > E-Mail.) > wrote in message > news:14598-43B159E0-167@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net… >> Well…….if they don’t use all that extra safety equipment ALL the >> time, then they’re putting themselves and their patients at risk for >> hcv. Shawn, you just happened to be the guy that admitted you had hcv. >> What about all the infected people who don’t know they’ve got it and >> therefore don’t tell the dentist? A smart dentist should assume that >> everyone who walks thru his door is a risk for hcv and other blood-borne >> illnesses. They should use the same precautions for every patient, >> whether there is documented hcv or not. >> elmo >> http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile >> http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

Response:

Yeh, my dentist charged me double what he charged my nephew for the same work… mmmhhh…. what’s up with that? Doug "Shawn" wrote in message

news:ST6sf.24146$x%2.23415@trnddc06… >I did once. They charged me triple due to (they said) having to use all the >extra safety equipment. Things that they usually should use. Like gloves, >masks, safety goggles that sort of thing. > — > Shawn > (use the "reply feature on your browser to send a private reply via > E-Mail.) > "anonymousone" wrote in message > news:1135638153.910752.203460@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com… >> Anybody experienced any trouble getting treatment from a dentist after >> you told them you had hep C ?

Yeh, my dentist charged me double what he charged my nephew for the same work… mmmhhh…. what’s up with that? Doug

Response:

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Sara wrote: > "dortski" wrote in message > news:e2gsf.9972$tO4.4785@tornado.texas.rr.com… > > "anonymousone" wrote in message > > news:1135638153.910752.203460@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com… > >> Anybody experienced any trouble getting treatment from a dentist after > >> you told them you had hep C ? > > For those who have had trouble with dentist after informing them of HCV > > infection, be glad, they did you a favor. You could report them to the > > local state board. But consider yourself lucky not being treated by an > > obvious ignorant office the obviously does not follow universal > > precautions set by OSHA. > > The reason most dentist will not do invasive procedures while on treatment > > is because the blood clotting factor is compromised. It’s the same for > > folks on blood thinners. It would be very difficult to control the > > bleeding, which can lead to serious problems. Most literature I’ve read > > recommends getting all dental work and such taken care of before starting > > treatment. Hope this helps! > > dort > I agree. when I told my dentist/hygenist about the hep-c, they pretty much > shrugged… "thanks for letting us know, but we take the same precautions > with everyone"… of course it may affect treatment in the future, but they > have no qualms about taking care of my teeth. thank goodness!

I went to the dentist this morning and I told them I had hep C. No problem. No extra charge or anything. Personally, I dont think it would be right to not tell them. Sure they should always use precautions but they can let their guard down. If you warn them they can excercize due caution. We owe it to them.

Response:

I will give her a call tonight and see what she has to say about it. I know my old dentist had a shit fit when I told her I had Hep A – turns out it was C lol. My understanding is that not all the equipment can be thoroughly cleaned for some reason but I will ask her. I know that she does even my cleaning herself but then on the other hand I insist she does lol – should be every mothers perogative. She is the only dentist I know that has the most vivid blue eyes and who I can reach up and kiss. Mags

Response:

Ya know Elmo, I related that story to my BCLD. She told me not to say I had hep-c to any doctor or dentist. According to her, if the persons in question don’t use the proper safety gear it’s their problem. Personally, I would feel too guilty not to say anything. — Shawn (use the "reply feature on your browser to send a private reply via E-Mail.) wrote in message

news:14598-43B159E0-167@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Well…….if they don’t use all that extra safety equipment ALL the > time, then they’re putting themselves and their patients at risk for > hcv. Shawn, you just happened to be the guy that admitted you had hcv. > What about all the infected people who don’t know they’ve got it and > therefore don’t tell the dentist? A smart dentist should assume that > everyone who walks thru his door is a risk for hcv and other blood-borne > illnesses. They should use the same precautions for every patient, > whether there is documented hcv or not. > elmo > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile > http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

Response:

>Mags wrote: >My dentist is my daughter – she wouldn’t dare!

Wow Mags. lucky you I’ve noticed some subtle and not-so-subtle descrimination against me in the medical community here because of the hep c. I think that when and if my health problems become severe (ie bloody), I will not get adequate treatment in this smallish town because of the diagnosis. I think this dentist issue is just the tip of the iceberg. I wonder what someone inside the medical establishment, such as your daughter, has to say about this. I wonder if ol’ Doc Rudman is still lurking? Comment, Doc? Kathy

Response:

"anonymousone" wrote in message

news:1135638153.910752.203460@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com… > Anybody experienced any trouble getting treatment from a dentist after > you told them you had hep C ?

For those who have had trouble with dentist after informing them of HCV infection, be glad, they did you a favor. You could report them to the local state board. But consider yourself lucky not being treated by an obvious ignorant office the obviously does not follow universal precautions set by OSHA. The reason most dentist will not do invasive procedures while on treatment is because the blood clotting factor is compromised. It’s the same for folks on blood thinners. It would be very difficult to control the bleeding, which can lead to serious problems. Most literature I’ve read recommends getting all dental work and such taken care of before starting treatment. Hope this helps! dort

Response:

"dortski" wrote in message

news:e2gsf.9972$tO4.4785@tornado.texas.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "anonymousone" wrote in message > news:1135638153.910752.203460@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com… >> Anybody experienced any trouble getting treatment from a dentist after >> you told them you had hep C ? > For those who have had trouble with dentist after informing them of HCV > infection, be glad, they did you a favor. You could report them to the > local state board. But consider yourself lucky not being treated by an > obvious ignorant office the obviously does not follow universal > precautions set by OSHA. > The reason most dentist will not do invasive procedures while on treatment > is because the blood clotting factor is compromised. It’s the same for > folks on blood thinners. It would be very difficult to control the > bleeding, which can lead to serious problems. Most literature I’ve read > recommends getting all dental work and such taken care of before starting > treatment. Hope this helps! > dort

I agree. when I told my dentist/hygenist about the hep-c, they pretty much shrugged… "thanks for letting us know, but we take the same precautions with everyone"… of course it may affect treatment in the future, but they have no qualms about taking care of my teeth. thank goodness!

Response:

Well…….if they don’t use all that extra safety equipment ALL the time, then they’re putting themselves and their patients at risk for hcv. Shawn, you just happened to be the guy that admitted you had hcv. What about all the infected people who don’t know they’ve got it and therefore don’t tell the dentist? A smart dentist should assume that everyone who walks thru his door is a risk for hcv and other blood-borne illnesses. They should use the same precautions for every patient, whether there is documented hcv or not. elmo http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/DocElmosHepFile http://community.webtv.net/elmoemerson/TheFamilyAlbum

Response:

"Maitake_man" wrote in message

news:43b134d1$0$20944$6d36acad@roc.nntpserver.com… > Hey, I’m sorry, but I just see any reason to turn anyone away.

(edit: "Hey, I’m sorry, but I just ‘DON’T’ see any…"

Response:

My dentist is my daughter – she wouldn’t dare! Mags

Response:

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Maitake_man wrote: > Lu, I’m a newbie here, and don’t want to seem like I’m coming out of nowhere > here. But I’m not sure what you are saying? Do you have any citations for > this? Why would a Dentist or Orthodontist not carry out an extraction or any > emergency procedure and prevent any excess bleeding? That doesn’t make much > sense to me. If nothing else they refer it to a specialist? (You know like > when Doc on Gunsmoke had Festus bite down on the bullet case then kicked him > in the jaw to set it?) > Hey, I’m sorry, but I just see any reason to turn anyone away. Regardless. > It goes against ethics and the Hippocratic Oath. (And I wouldn’t like them > very much and probably send them into the cornfield.) > den > "Lu Tze" wrote in message > news:dorb9p$bck$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com… >>anonymousone wrote: >>>Anybody experienced any trouble getting treatment from a dentist after >>>you told them you had hep C ? >>It may not be the case in this instance but dentists will not carry out >>dental work that may include extractions or cause bleeding to a patient on >>treatment or indeed not on treatment if their platelet count is low. >>– >>Lu Tze >>Whale Oil Beef Hooked.

It may well be that the medical profession over here are over cautious but I had 4 teeth which were troublesome, indeed I could partially rotate them in their socket, I spent close to a year waiting for them to be extracted which they would not do at the time as my platelets were only around 33,000 (poor clotting). I removed two of them myself however (no bleeding) and eventually had the other 2 removed once my platelets had climbed back to around 100,000. As I say, over cautious?, things are probably different over the pond. — Lu Tze Whale Oil Beef Hooked.

Response:

anonymousone wrote: > Anybody experienced any trouble getting treatment from a dentist after > you told them you had hep C ?

It may not be the case in this instance but dentists will not carry out dental work that may include extractions or cause bleeding to a patient on treatment or indeed not on treatment if their platelet count is low. — Lu Tze Whale Oil Beef Hooked.

Response:

Lu, I’m a newbie here, and don’t want to seem like I’m coming out of nowhere here. But I’m not sure what you are saying? Do you have any citations for this? Why would a Dentist or Orthodontist not carry out an extraction or any emergency procedure and prevent any excess bleeding? That doesn’t make much sense to me. If nothing else they refer it to a specialist? (You know like when Doc on Gunsmoke had Festus bite down on the bullet case then kicked him in the jaw to set it?) Hey, I’m sorry, but I just see any reason to turn anyone away. Regardless. It goes against ethics and the Hippocratic Oath. (And I wouldn’t like them very much and probably send them into the cornfield.) den "Lu Tze" wrote in message

news:dorb9p$bck$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> anonymousone wrote: >> Anybody experienced any trouble getting treatment from a dentist after >> you told them you had hep C ? > It may not be the case in this instance but dentists will not carry out > dental work that may include extractions or cause bleeding to a patient on > treatment or indeed not on treatment if their platelet count is low. > — > Lu Tze > Whale Oil Beef Hooked.

Response:

Did you document this? How did you know it was triple? Yes, they do usually use those things. very bizarre, maybe contact the ADA.org and give them the 411? That really sux mud. (On a side note about Dentists in general. When I lived in Santa Fe, New Mexico. If someone had a bad tooth, they could go to the Loretto Chapel at around 5:00 a.m. and a volunteer Dentist would yank it for four bucks. I had it done several times with broken molars that were literally killing me. The Doc’s advice to me, was: "It was very infected, next time don’t let it go so long." (yeah, right.) But, it was a good program and I appreciate it now. I hope they are still helping those that need it. den "Shawn" wrote in message

news:ST6sf.24146$x%2.23415@trnddc06… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I did once. They charged me triple due to (they said) having to use all the >extra safety equipment. Things that they usually should use. Like gloves, >masks, safety goggles that sort of thing. > — > Shawn > (use the "reply feature on your browser to send a private reply via > E-Mail.) > "anonymousone" wrote in message > news:1135638153.910752.203460@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com… >> Anybody experienced any trouble getting treatment from a dentist after >> you told them you had hep C ?

Response:

I did once. They charged me triple due to (they said) having to use all the extra safety equipment. Things that they usually should use. Like gloves, masks, safety goggles that sort of thing. — Shawn (use the "reply feature on your browser to send a private reply via E-Mail.) "anonymousone" wrote in message

news:1135638153.910752.203460@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Anybody experienced any trouble getting treatment from a dentist after > you told them you had hep C ?

Response:

Anybody experienced any trouble getting treatment from a dentist after you told them you had hep C ?

Response:

"anonymousone" wrote in message

news:1135638153.910752.203460@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com… > Anybody experienced any trouble getting treatment from a dentist after > you told them you had hep C ?

Never. And I’d accuse him/her of unprofessional conduct if I did.

Response:

"anonymousone" wrote in message

news:1135638153.910752.203460@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com… > Anybody experienced any trouble getting treatment from a dentist after > you told them you had hep C ?

Yeah,I did once, right after I tested pos. It was some real hokey place that advertised itself like American Best (or something like that.) They had a whole bunch of American Flags in their ad and wording like "We are there to serve everyone." (yeah, right.) Anyway I put Hep C down under medical condition and they cancelled my appt. on the spot, after a quick behind closed doors conference. Then they wanted me to bring in copies of my complete medical history. Needless to say I didn’t go back. I think Thip has the right idea, but back then I was just coming off the road, not established and without a pot to piss in, so I just blew it off. However at the time, it did add to the stigma that goes along with just finding out and me not being educated about it. Since then, my son’s Dentist has emergency capped me a couple times, knowing my med. history and didn’t bat an eye (it’s why they wear latex gloves, eh?) And, since him I have discovered the local State University Student Dental Clinic. They are really great (but it takes awhile to get in.) They accept all Dental Insurance and give you reduced rates. Although it’s students in training that do the actual work, the Instructors are highly paid professionals right there with them. I’d recommend checking your local State university to everyone that needs good dental work. I think with dentists that don’t want patients at might have a pathogen, it just boils down to ignorance on their part. den – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

Response: